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Postby kennylog » Wed Oct 11, 2006 10:20

this is a good thing!

but...

The bio-edition forum seems quite useless, and bio-documentation is empty

and under the off-topic section: what about an art and screenshots section? this could go in off-topic but it's clearer as seperate section

and what about a community howto section where we can submit our own tips and tricks
i know there's a wiki, but there's no harm in having a section for it in the forum

so that would be:

The Shed

Italian Shed

Off Topic

Art & Screenshots

Sabayon general

Sabayon x86

Sabayon 64

Distro development

Release notes

Official howto's

Community howto's

i'm not trying to start a riot :) i want to help in making the forum more user-friendly (and fun) and now 3.1 is out and sabayon is getting more popular, it may be time to adapt the forums to it

anyway, just trying to help

your working-class hen,

kenny

btw: congrats on new logo, looks very cool!
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Postby kolsyra » Wed Oct 11, 2006 14:11

Funny that you mention it. I took this up on IRC yesterday.
I wrote that I think the forum split of the x86 and x86_64 not being used as it probably was intended. Questions found inside feel most of the time to be very generic.

Maybe there should be one section for discussing "problems/bugs" and one for "install help" or something. It would make sense now with the new addition of "The Shed"

Take as an example of the situation the topic "im a complete newb at linux" found inside the x86-64 Linux Forum

Also I think many people can't tell the difference of what is an "Sabayon problem" (if there are any :) ) and what is a "linux in general" problem or a problem that is only related to x86 or x86_64.

Lots of questions seem also to be in the nature of understanding how Gentoo works compared to "insert distro of choice here". Maybe that could earn its own section under?

Anyway, anything that makes the forum easier to maintain and easier for users understand where to post is a good change.
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Postby kennylog » Wed Oct 11, 2006 15:01

thx for support kolsyra

you're right about those things, after reading your post i've created yet another possible structure


Sabayon chat (no support questions)

General Linux chat (I found the name the shed too vague, sorry lxnay! ;))

Italian Shed (don't know what to do with it: maybe name it "Italian chat")

Off Topic (chat not related to linux, but everything else in life)

Art & Screenshots


Sabayon newbie help

Sabayon install help

Sabayon software help

Sabayon hardware help

Sabayon 64-specific help (since there are specific 64 bit problems)

Gentoo questions (since it's based on it)

Sabayon Italian help


Distro development

Release notes

Official howto's

Community howto's

(and maybe at the back, since it isn't directed to a large public me thinks)
BioEdition help

BioEdition Documentation



Once again, i'm only doing this to help, if the idea seems bad, i will understand, but i do believe that introducing some of these sections will eventually make the forum more structured and fun

and another thing: i'd be happy to maintain one of the sections: for example off-topic or art and screenshots to take a little work of your hands
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Postby kolsyra » Wed Oct 11, 2006 15:21

Shed names work fine for me since the sections have discriptions added to them so I think it will be clear what it's about (if ppl bother to read them). If users post wrong the mods sould move to apropiate section when noticed so that shouldn't be a biggy. I like the Shed naming actually, it fits the fun feeling of the comunity here, and that's one of the reasons I hang around :)

Not sure Art & Screenshots deserves it's totally own section. There are plenty of outstanding sites for that stuff already. A sticky under some general section is probably enough.

But I really like the help section version, maybe a seperate Gentoo section is not needed if it gets mentioned in the detailed text for the help sections? Links to Gentoo wikis etc can be referenced to in the how2s
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Postby wolfden » Wed Oct 11, 2006 15:26

Why have a Sabayon Chat and a General Chat - both the same

Sabayon newbie help <---newbie can be a bit offensive for some
and
Sabayon install help
and
Sabayon software help
and
Sabayon hardware help
will equal more people posting in the wrong section since they are not specific to which version

Could just do a
SabayonLinux x86 with subforums
------mini
------dvd
SabayonLinux 64 with subforums
------mini
------dvd


Gentoo Questions would be same as Sabayon Chat and General Chat - don't need 3 forums of same thing

Arts and Screenshots could be a subform of Offtopic

Offtopic
-----Arts/Screenshots

than have the Releases, Tutorials, Bio, and Italian but with the Italian area I would again do
SabayonLinux x86 with subforums
------mini
------dvd
SabayonLinux 64 with subforums
------mini
------dvd
just to keep things seperated


The goal is to get people to post in the right area of the forum with their version instead of having to ask repeatedly through out the forum what version they are running. Someone posts in the x86 mini area - well than we know what they are running. The more forums the harder it is to keep track.
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Postby kennylog » Wed Oct 11, 2006 15:40

yes, i realise this
why not do this:

Sabayon chat (not for support but things like: what would you like to see in new version)

Italian Shed (don't know what to do with it: maybe name it "Italian chat")

Off Topic (for topics like: who will win the next world cup?)

Art & Screenshots (i find it better not to put them in off topic)


Sabayon newbie help (should be an option, even if it is just for redirection to the right section)

Sabayon 32 bit help

Sabayon 64 bit help

Sabayon Italian 32 bit help

Sabayon Italian 64 bit help


Distro development

Release notes

Official howto's

Community howto's


BioEdition help

BioEdition Documentation


i really don't see much problems then ;)
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Postby wolfden » Wed Oct 11, 2006 15:43

kennylog wrote:yes, i realise this
why not do this:

Sabayon chat (not for support but things like: what would you like to see in new version)

Italian Shed (don't know what to do with it: maybe name it "Italian chat")

Off Topic (for topics like: who will win the next world cup?)

Art & Screenshots (i find it better not to put them in off topic)


Sabayon newbie help (should be an option, even if it is just for redirection to the right section)

Sabayon 32 bit help

Sabayon 64 bit help

Sabayon Italian 32 bit help

Sabayon Italian 64 bit help


Distro development

Release notes

Official howto's

Community howto's


BioEdition help

BioEdition Documentation


i really don't see much problems then ;)



ummmm that is what we pretty much have now

Art/Screenshots isn't going to be big enough really to have it's own forum IMHO -- usually it's one thread
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Postby kennylog » Wed Oct 11, 2006 16:41

indeed it is, maybe we should leave it as it is

thx anyway for hearing my suggestion :)
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Postby Jozef » Fri Oct 13, 2006 7:45

just a suggestion but have you considered changing your forums to SMF from phpBB...I recently did this in The Forum at cafelinux.org and have found SMF better then vBulletin...

just for reference:
http://cafelinux.org/forums/


take a look and see what you think
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Postby wolfden » Fri Oct 13, 2006 22:07

SMF is like horrible forum software, vBulletin is much better compared to that. Yes I have used most forms of the software and currently using a SMF. My top 3 picks, vBulletin, IPB, MyBB.

SMF and phpBB are like at the bottom. Both lack standard features and the admin panel is crude. MyBB is free and it takes vBulletin and IPB and like combines em.
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