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Wine 4? [Solved]

Post by msdobrescu » Mon Apr 15, 2019 9:00

Hello,

Is there a plan to add/upgrade to wine 4?

Thanks.
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Re: Wine 4?

Post by Alexander88207 » Wed Apr 17, 2019 9:22

Hello msdobrescu,

wine-staging 4.0 is out of question for now as it requires "unstable" ffmpeg-4.

Source: https://bugs.sabayon.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5752
How to create a sabayon uefi usb device: https://github.com/linuxerus/sabayon-st ... -device.md

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Re: Wine 4?

Post by msdobrescu » Wed Apr 17, 2019 9:29

What do you mean by '"unstable" ffmpeg-4'?

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Re: Wine 4?

Post by Stupot » Wed Apr 17, 2019 16:41

https://packages.gentoo.org/packages/media-video/ffmpeg


ffmpeg 3.4.5 is in portage stable branch.
ffmpeg 4.1.1 is in portage unstable branch.

While Sabayon is generally built out of the unstable portage branch, there are a lot of applications that depend on ffmpeg to work. Basically, it would be risky to upgrade. How much risk? I don't know. But that's the general idea of what was stated in that bug.

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Re: Wine 4?

Post by msdobrescu » Wed Apr 17, 2019 17:30

Thanks, but what means stable/unstable in this case?
Simply versioning? Crashes a lot? A known bunch of serious bugs ready to hit?

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Re: Wine 4?

Post by msdobrescu » Wed Apr 17, 2019 20:37

Well, there are many unstable packages from Gentoo point of view, including current wine 3.21 version.
Another question: doens't Sabayon have a preserved libraries mechanism? Why not having several library versions at the same time? It seems that wine different versions can be installed at the same time now.
Why not having ffmpeg 4 installed only for wine 4 until things get more stable and clear? Or why not link ffmpeg statically to wine 4?
How long do we have to wait for stabilization of ffmpeg 4 in order to have wine 4?

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Re: Wine 4?

Post by Stupot » Wed Apr 17, 2019 22:41

Unstable = testing.
https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Handbook:X ... e/Branches

Having multiple versions installed side by side is much more complicated for maintainers than you seem to believe. It is possible, but it is not something to do without careful consideration of the costs/benefits.

As far the rest of your questions, you'd have to ask an actual maintainer. I'm just trying to provide what context I can as a user that's been around for a good long while.

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Re: Wine 4?

Post by msdobrescu » Thu Apr 18, 2019 6:56

Well, I am a software developer myself, so I imagine.
I did not say it's easy, but I have just noticed there are ways already implemented.
Wine 4 is an important development and, despite I don't play Windows games, I don't play much games at all on PC, I hope I can run other Windows software.
And, yes, I love Sabayon for its stability and I understand distribution's policy to test thoroughly the software first!

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Re: Wine 4?

Post by msdobrescu » Sat Jun 29, 2019 12:42

Hi, six months passed after Wine 4 was adopted on other distros. Is there a plan to have it on Sabayon?
I mean a time schedule, not necessarily a release soon.

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Re: Wine 4?

Post by Alexander88207 » Sun Jun 30, 2019 9:14

Unfortunately ffmpeg still does not seem to be stable, but you can use lutris to use wine 4.x.
How to create a sabayon uefi usb device: https://github.com/linuxerus/sabayon-st ... -device.md

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