SL7 - cannot play .rm files any more! [Solved]

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SL7 - cannot play .rm files any more! [Solved]

Postby Richlion » Wed Nov 02, 2011 21:17

Hello,

I've got VLC and Kaffeine on my SL7 system. I know in the past I had to install Real Player to view .rm files, but VLC could play those files too in SL version 5. What has changed? Is there another media player that can be installed via Sulfur that can play those files?

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Re: SL7 - cannot play .rm files any more!

Postby raman » Wed Nov 02, 2011 21:47

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Re: SL7 - cannot play .rm files any more!

Postby Fitzcarraldo » Thu Nov 03, 2011 14:26

^I don't have win32codecs installed (it's not possible for the 64-bit version of VLC in any case) and yet I can play in VLC the following .rm file (I'm finding it difficult to find examples on the Web of .rm files) that I downloaded:

http://lp2cd.com/rmex56/T_13_cowboy_ballad_After.rm

As you can see from the eix output below, win32codecs is disabled in VLC on my main laptop running 64-bit Linux:

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$ eix -I media-video/vlc
[I] media-video/vlc
     Available versions:  1.1.11 1.1.12 **1.1.9999 **9999 {+X a52 aac aalib alsa altivec atmo +audioqueue avahi +avcodec +avformat bidi bluray cdda cddb dbus dc1394 debug dirac direct2d directfb directx dshow dts dvb dvd dxva2 egl elibc_glibc +encode fbcon fbosd +ffmpeg flac fluidsynth fontconfig +gcrypt ggi gme gnome gnutls growl httpd id3tag ieee1394 ios-vout jack kate kde libass libcaca libnotify libproxy libsamplerate libtar libtiger libv4l libv4l2 linsys lirc live lua +macosx +macosx-audio +macosx-dialog-provider +macosx-eyetv +macosx-qtcapture +macosx-quartztext +macosx-vout matroska media-library mmx modplug mp3 mpeg mtp musepack ncurses neon nsplugin ogg omxil opengl optimisememory oss png portaudio +postproc projectm pulseaudio pvr +qt4 remoteosd rtsp run-as-root samba schroedinger sdl sdl-image shine shout sid skins speex sqlite sse stream svg svga switcher +swscale taglib theora truetype twolame udev upnp v4l v4l2 vaapi vcdx vlm vorbis waveout win32codecs wingdi wma-fixed x264 +xcb xml xosd xv zvbi}                                                                   
     Installed versions:  1.1.12(20:27:32 31/10/11)(X a52 aac aalib alsa avahi bidi cdda cddb dbus dts dvb dvd elibc_glibc ffmpeg flac gcrypt gnutls httpd id3tag ieee1394 jack kde libnotify live matroska mmx mp3 mpeg musepack ncurses nsplugin ogg opengl png pulseaudio qt4 sdl speex sse stream svg theora truetype udev v4l v4l2 vlm vorbis x264 xcb xml xv -altivec -atmo -dc1394 -debug -dirac -directfb -fbcon -fluidsynth -fontconfig -ggi -gme -gnome -kate -libass -libcaca -libproxy -libtiger -libv4l -libv4l2 -lirc -lua -modplug -mtp -optimisememory -oss -projectm -pvr -remoteosd -rtsp -run-as-root -samba -schroedinger -sdl-image -shine -shout -skins -sqlite -svga -taglib -twolame -upnp -vaapi -vcdx -win32codecs -wma-fixed -xosd -zvbi)                                                                                                                                                                         
     Homepage:            http://www.videolan.org/vlc/
     Description:         VLC media player - Video player and streamer

My understanding is that VLC uses ffmpeg to play .rm files, and I do have that installed:

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$ eix -I ffmpeg
[I] kde-base/ffmpegthumbs
     Available versions:  (4) 4.6.3 4.6.5 (~)4.7.2
        {aqua debug kdeenablefinal kdeprefix}
     Installed versions:  4.7.2(4)(10:33:42 07/10/11)(-aqua -debug -kdeenablefinal)
     Homepage:            http://www.kde.org/
     Description:         A FFmpeg based thumbnail Generator for Video Files.

[I] media-plugins/gst-plugins-ffmpeg
     Available versions:  (0.10) 0.10.9 0.10.11-r1 (~)0.10.12
        {+orc}
     Installed versions:  0.10.12(0.10)(11:26:20 10/09/11)(orc)
     Homepage:            http://gstreamer.freedesktop.org/modules/gst-ffmpeg.html
     Description:         FFmpeg based gstreamer plugin

[I] media-video/ffmpeg
     Available versions:  0.5_p20373[1] 0.7.6 [M](~)0.8.5 [M]**9999 {(+)3dnow (+)3dnowext X aac aacplus alsa altivec amr avx bindist +bzip2 cdio celt cpudetection custom-cflags debug dirac doc +encode faac faad frei0r gsm +hardcoded-tables ieee1394 ipv6 jack jpeg2k (+)mmx (+)mmxext modplug mp3 neon network openal oss pic qt-faststart rtmp schroedinger sdl speex (+)ssse3 static-libs test theora threads truetype v4l v4l2 vaapi vdpau video_cards_nvidia vis vorbis vpx x264 xvid (+)zlib}                                                           
     Installed versions:  0.7.6(20:11:20 31/10/11)(3dnow 3dnowext X aac alsa bzip2 cpudetection encode faac gsm hardcoded-tables ieee1394 jack mmx mmxext mp3 network sdl speex ssse3 theora threads truetype v4l v4l2 vorbis x264 xvid zlib -altivec -amr -avx -bindist -celt -custom-cflags -debug -dirac -doc -frei0r -jpeg2k -oss -pic -qt-faststart -rtmp -schroedinger -static-libs -test -vaapi -vdpau -video_cards_nvidia -vpx)
     Homepage:            http://ffmpeg.org/
     Description:         Complete solution to record, convert and stream audio and video. Includes libavcodec.

[I] media-video/ffmpeg2theora
     Available versions:  0.25 (~)0.26 (~)0.27 (~)0.28 {debug kate}
     Installed versions:  0.28(02:08:11 28/08/11)(-debug -kate)
     Homepage:            http://www.v2v.cc/~j/ffmpeg2theora/
     Description:         A simple converter to create Ogg Theora files.

[I] virtual/ffmpeg
     Available versions:  0.6-r1 0.6.90 {X +encode jpeg2k mp3 sdl theora threads vaapi vdpau x264}
     Installed versions:  0.6.90(14:26:50 26/08/11)(X encode mp3 sdl theora threads x264 -jpeg2k -vaapi -vdpau)
     Description:         Virtual package for FFmpeg implementation

[1] "sabayon" /var/lib/layman/sabayon

Found 5 matches.

So the first thing the OP needs to check is whether ffmpeg is installed and what USE flags are set (see the eix output above for the USE flags that are set on my machine).


BTW, although not pertinent to .rm files, if someone using 64-bit Linux does need to play files that require win32codecs (e.g. .wmv files encoded using the MSS2 codec), it is possible to do so by using SMPlayer for Windows in WINE (see How to play MSS2 codec (Windows Media Video 9 Screen) .wmv files in 64-bit Linux).
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Re: SL7 - cannot play .rm files any more!

Postby raman » Thu Nov 03, 2011 14:58

Why so combined??
Use SMplayer for linux. He will be play .rm.
Im' using without problems, SMplayer is much better than VLC in my opinion.
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#equo install smplayer
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Re: SL7 - cannot play .rm files any more!

Postby DeepDayze » Fri Nov 04, 2011 18:20

what about w64codecs? There are 64 bit Windows codecs out there as Debian multimedia repo has w64codecs package. Should there be a similar package ported over to sabayon?
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Re: SL7 - cannot play .rm files any more!

Postby Fitzcarraldo » Fri Nov 04, 2011 20:10

DeepDayze wrote:what about w64codecs? There are 64 bit Windows codecs out there as Debian multimedia repo has w64codecs package. Should there be a similar package ported over to sabayon?

If you're referring to the OP's question regarding VLC and .rm files, win32codecs (and win64codecs) are a red herring. For VLC to play .rm (RealMedia) files it uses ffmpeg. Nothing to do with win32codecs or win64codecs. As I mentioned, those .rm files that I can find on the Web do play in VLC on my 64-bit installation with 64-bit VLC and I don't have the win32codecs package installed nor the win32codecs USE flag enabled in VLC (which would not work in any case for 64-bit VLC). There is no win64codecs USE flag for VLC (see the eix output I posted earlier). See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RealAudio for further details.

However, if you're referring to my aside about users of 64-bit Linux who need to play files that require win32codecs (e.g. .wmv files encoded using the MSS2 codec), then, no, there is no win64codecs package in Gentoo/Sabayon Linux. However there is a package amd64codecs from the MPlayer developer, but that is masked in Portage, presumably because it doesn't work properly or is obsolete:

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$ eix amd64codecs
* media-libs/amd64codecs
     Available versions:  [M]20071007!s
     Homepage:            http://www.mplayerhq.hu/
     Description:         64-bit binary codecs for video and audio playback support

In any case, 64-bit MPlayer plays the .rm files I have tried without the amd64codecs package installed, providing the 'real' USE flag is enabled when MPlayer was built:

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$ eix -I media-video/mplayer
[I] media-video/mplayer
     Available versions:  1.0_rc4_p20110322-r1 **9999 {3dnow 3dnowext +X +a52 aalib +alsa altivec amr aqua +ass bidi bindist bl bluray bs2b cddb +cdio cdparanoia cpudetection custom-cpuopts debug dga +dirac directfb doc +dts +dv dvb +dvd +dvdnav dxr3 +enca +encode esd (+)faac +faad fbcon ftp ggi gif gsm +iconv ipv6 jack joystick jpeg jpeg2k kernel_linux ladspa libcaca libmpeg2 lirc +live lzo mad md5sum +mmx mmxext mng +mp3 mpg123 nas +network nut openal +opengl +osdmenu oss png pnm pulseaudio pvr +quicktime radio +rar +real +rtc rtmp samba +schroedinger sdl +shm +speex sse sse2 ssse3 tga +theora +toolame +tremor +truetype +twolame +unicode v4l vdpau video_cards_mga video_cards_s3virge video_cards_tdfx video_cards_vesa vidix +vorbis vpx win32codecs +x264 xanim xinerama +xscreensaver +xv +xvid xvmc zoran}                                                                                               
     Installed versions:  1.0_rc4_p20110322-r1(20:19:26 31/10/11)(3dnow 3dnowext X a52 aalib alsa amr ass bidi bl cddb cdio cdparanoia cpudetection dga dirac dts dv dvb dvd dvdnav enca encode faac faad ftp gif gsm iconv ipv6 jack joystick jpeg kernel_linux lirc live lzo mad md5sum mmx mmxext mng mp3 network openal opengl osdmenu png pnm pulseaudio quicktime radio rar real rtc schroedinger sdl shm speex sse sse2 ssse3 tga theora toolame tremor truetype twolame unicode v4l v4l2 video_cards_vesa vorbis x264 xinerama xscreensaver xv xvid xvmc zoran -altivec -aqua -bindist -bluray -bs2b -custom-cpuopts -debug -directfb -doc -dxr3 -esd -fbcon -ggi -jpeg2k -ladspa -libcaca -libmpeg2 -mpg123 -nas -nut -oss -pvr -rtmp -samba -vdpau -video_cards_mga -video_cards_s3virge -video_cards_tdfx -vidix -vpx -win32codecs -xanim)                                                                                         
     Homepage:            http://www.mplayerhq.hu/
     Description:         Media Player for Linux
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Re: SL7 - cannot play .rm files any more!

Postby Richlion » Sun Nov 13, 2011 20:26

Hello,

thank you to everyone for such a thorough explanation, I like simple solutions without any scientific tweaking :D
SMplayer works for me.

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Re: SL7 - cannot play .rm files any more! [Solved]

Postby raman » Sun Nov 13, 2011 23:26

SMplayer rulez!
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