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All I can say is wow

Postby mamamia88 » Thu Jan 07, 2010 21:59

i've been using ubuntu and mint for awhile now but never had a distro that worked entirely out of the box. this is the first distro where my video and wireless card worked out of the box on my laptop. i am going to install it but i have a few questions. is sabayon a rolling release? can i install aisle rot solitaire, can i install ryhthmbox? is there a graphical software installer like synaptic? also, i have windows 7 installed if i install sabayon over linux mint will grub pick up windows 7?
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Re: All I can say is wow

Postby Fitzcarraldo » Thu Jan 07, 2010 22:42

Welcome to SL (Sabayon Linux).

mamamia88 wrote:is sabayon a rolling release?

Yes.

mamamia88 wrote:can i install aisle rot solitaire?

That's part of the GNOME games suite, isn't it? In which case, the answer is "yes".

mamamia88 wrote:can i install ryhthmbox?

Yes.

mamamia88 wrote:is there a graphical software installer like synaptic?

Yes. It's called Sulfur - see the SL Wiki for details (link at top right of this page). There are two package managers: 1) binary package manager called Entropy: GUI is Sulfur, command line tool is Equo. See SL Wiki for full details. 2) source code package manager called Portage (same as Gentoo). Stick to Entropy until you are fully familiar with SL.

mamamia88 wrote:i have windows 7 installed if i install sabayon over linux mint will grub pick up windows 7?

Should do, but use the SL Forums search tool for threads mentioning Windows 7, and also see the threads on dual booting with Vista and Windows 7 in the Installation of Sabayon Linux 'shed' (forum).
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Re: All I can say is wow

Postby mamamia88 » Thu Jan 07, 2010 22:51

cool installing now but didn't see aislerot in the list of games on live cd
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Re: All I can say is wow

Postby Fitzcarraldo » Thu Jan 07, 2010 23:16

The GNOME games come together in one big package called gnome-games:

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$ equo search gnome-games
>>  @@ Searching...
>>   #1 Sabayon Linux Official Repository
>>      @@ Package: gnome-extra/gnome-games-2.26.3-r1           branch: 5
>>        Available:            version: 2.26.3-r1 ~ tag: NoTag ~ revision: 0
>>        Installed:            version: Not installed ~ tag: N/A ~ revision: N/A
>>        Slot:                 0
>>        Homepage:             http://live.gnome.org/GnomeGames/
>>        Description:          Collection of games for the GNOME
>>                              desktop
>>        License:              FDL-1.1 GPL-2
>>      @@ Package: gnome-extra/gnome-games-extra-data-2.26.0           branch: 5
>>        Available:            version: 2.26.0 ~ tag: NoTag ~ revision: 0
>>        Installed:            version: Not installed ~ tag: N/A ~ revision: N/A
>>        Slot:                 0
>>        Homepage:             http://live.gnome.org/GnomeGames/
>>        Description:          Optional additional graphics
>>                              for gnome-games
>>        License:              GPL-2
>>  Keyword:    gnome-games
>>  Found:      2 entries


EDIT: http://live.gnome.org/Aisleriot
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Re: All I can say is wow

Postby mamamia88 » Thu Jan 07, 2010 23:20

so how do i install it? package is installed but solitaire is missing from the list also where do i download rhythmbox from?
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Re: All I can say is wow

Postby micia » Fri Jan 08, 2010 0:55

You should get familiar with the package manager, run sulfur and check for the packages that you would like to install, you can achieve the same results with a console, for example:

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micia@il-padre-laptop ~ $ equo search rhythm
>>  @@ Cercando...
>>   #1 Sabayon Linux Official Repository
>>      @@ Pacchetto: media-sound/rhythmbox-0.12.6 branch: 5, [repo_sabayonlinux.org]
>>        Disponibile:      versione: 0.12.6 ~ tag: NoTag ~ revisione: 0
>>        Installato:      versione: Non installato ~ tag: N/A ~ revisione: N/A
>>        Slot:         0
>>        Homepage:      http://www.rhythmbox.org/
>>        Descrizione:      Music management and playback
>>             software for GNOME
>>        Licenza:      GPL-2
>>      @@ Pacchetto: x11-plugins/pidgin-rhythmbox-2.0 branch: 5, [repo_sabayonlinux.org]
>>        Disponibile:      versione: 2.0 ~ tag: NoTag ~ revisione: 1
>>        Installato:      versione: Non installato ~ tag: N/A ~ revisione: N/A
>>        Slot:         0
>>        Homepage:      http://jon.oberheide.org/projects/pidgin-rhythmbox
>>        Descrizione:      automatically update your pidgin
>>             profile with current info from
>>             Rhythmbox
>>        Licenza:      GPL-2
>>  Keyword:    rhythm
>>  Trovati:      2 voci


Be sure to update the repository list with:
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equo update

(you can do it from Sulfur too)
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Re: All I can say is wow

Postby mamamia88 » Fri Jan 08, 2010 1:56

ok that answers how find rhytmbox but doesn't answer why gnome games is installed but not solitaire
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Re: All I can say is wow

Postby micia » Fri Jan 08, 2010 10:10

I found out that aisleriot is not installed if it is not compiled with the guile USE flag in gentoo, probably it is the case of the entropy prebuilt package.
In order to get it you should use emerge and recompile it, it should be pretty straightforward.

1) open as root /etc/portage/package.use.
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su
#insert root password
gedit /etc/portage/package.use


2) customize the gnome-games USE flags inserting in this file the line:
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gnome-extra/gnome-games guile

save and exit.


3) Be sure to sync portage before using it, this command will do it:
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emerge --sync && layman -S

(emerge --sync should be used only once a day, to prevent overloading of the Gentoo servers)

4) Install that package using emerge:
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emerge -av gnome-games


Be careful when using portage, you may want to check portage and emerge documentation before proceeding.
It is good to check dependencies before installing something with portage if you used only sulfur and equo before, with:
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equery depends <package name here>


and after the installation is completed:
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revdep-rebuild -- -av

but in this case it should not be necessary, since it is unlikely that gnome-games is a dependency or a reverse dependency of other packages (probably the only one could be gnome-games-extra), so the first four steps should be enough.

Notice that sulfur or equo could suggest you to install the entropy version of that package (without the guile flag), you should ignore it.

To let equo and sulfur know about the changes you made using emerge, you should execute:
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equo database gentoosync


This might sound complicated, but it is just because portage is a pretty advanced tool, if you will get into it, you will find out that it has many strong points :)
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