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HD video playing on SL 4.1 -> Read Here

Postby thenthenio » Sat Apr 25, 2009 13:53

I got an HD video and I'm trying to get it playing flawlessly on my SL 4.1 boxes (desktop and laptop).
Desktop PC is:
- AMD Athlon 64x2 @2.2GHz.
- 4GB RAM.
- Nvidia GeForce 7600GS 512MB RAM.
Laptop PC is:
- Intel Centrino Core Duo 2 @2.4GHz.
- 4GB RAM.
- PNY Quadro FX 570M 128MB RAM.
The video is (as reported by mplayer while starting):
[mkv] Track ID 1: video (V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC), -vid 0
[mkv] Track ID 2: audio (A_AC3) "italiano dd 5.1", -aid 0, -alang ita
[mkv] Track ID 3: audio (A_AC3) "inglese dd 2.0", -aid 1, -alang eng
[mkv] Track ID 4: subtitles (S_TEXT/UTF8) "italiano", -sid 0, -slang ita
[mkv] Track ID 5: subtitles (S_TEXT/UTF8) "inglese", -sid 1, -slang eng
[mkv] Riprodurrò la traccia video 1.
Rilevato formato file Matroska!
VIDEO: [avc1] 1920x1080 24bpp 25.000 fps 0.0 kbps ( 0.0 kbyte/s)
==========================================================================
Apertura decoder video: [ffmpeg] FFmpeg's libavcodec codec family
Scelto codec video: [ffh264] vfm: ffmpeg (FFmpeg H.264)
==========================================================================
==========================================================================
Apertura decoder audio: [liba52] AC3 decoding with liba52
Using SSE optimized IMDCT transform
Using MMX optimized resampler
AUDIO: 48000 Hz, 2 ch, s16le, 448.0 kbit/29.17% (ratio: 56000->192000)
Scelto codec audio: [a52] afm: liba52 (AC3-liba52)
==========================================================================
AO: [oss] 48000Hz 2ch s16le (2 bytes per sample)
Inizio la riproduzione...
VDec: configurazione chiesta dal vo - 1920 x 1080 (sp.col. preferito: Planar YV12)

Getting this video playing flawlessly is very difficult: I tried many players (vlc, smplayer, xine, kaffeine, etc.) but all of them, more or less, have choppy results.
Up to now the best one seems to be mplayer, but I had to test hundreds of different combinations of its many options.
The best configuration I found is this (adding the following lines in default file /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf):
# Setup maximum number of treads and maximize speed
lavdopts=threads=8:fast=1:skiploopfilter=all
# This avoids a performance message to come out
autosync = 30

Note that even if 8 threads in a dual-core CPU looks a nonsense, actually works better than 4, which works better than 2, which works dramatically better than 1.
With this configuration mplayer plays it very good on both PCs with few differences:
- On the desktop kpowersave reports the CPU always at maximum speed (even if policy is dynamic); video flows almost perfectly but sometimes mplayer slows a bit, sometimes a little bit more and reports "Too many packets in video buffer" and audio stops playing (this goes on for some seconds and then everything turns back norma), replying the same scene sometimes no problems, sometimes slows as described.
- On the laptop kpowersave reports the CPU continuously increasing and reducing speed (with dynamic policy) and this results in worse performance than the desktop, in this case mplayer behaves similarly as in the desktop case, if I set kpowersave policy to performance, the play is very fluyd and mplayer plays the video almost perfectly!
Googling a little bit I found interesting things in this topic:
- Newest Nvidia drivers have a specific extension that allow playing HD videos freeing CPU and using GPU power: this is called VDPAU (or Video Decode and Presentation API for Unix).
- This extension should be included only from driver version 185.18.04.
- This extension should work only from GeForce 8000 series and better.
- New mplayer-vdpau supports VDPAU.
- Vlc, xine and others should have VDPAU support in the near future.
I had a look to actual mplayer in sabayon and I saw that compiling mplayer in portage vdpau USE flag can be enabled, but mplayer in entropy is not compiled with that flag on.
Even if my graphic board does not support it I tried anyway to compile mplayer with vdpau USE flag enabled, unfortunately even with the flag enabled mplayer gets compiled without VDPAU support, I don't kow if this is due to the installed graphic card that does not support it or to the actual nvidia-drivers version (180.44-r1) which does not include VDPAU support.
I do not understand if PNY Quadro FX 570M could be part of the >8000 series Nvidia cards (that support VDPAU) or not.
Even if I do not have a >8000 series Nvidia card it could be a great thing for the community to upgrade Nvidia drivers to 185.18.04 and to include VDPAU support to all the applications that could include it!

Cheers.
Mauro
Last edited by thenthenio on Sun Apr 26, 2009 17:18, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: HD video playing on SL 4.1

Postby kodiakmax » Sun Apr 26, 2009 5:45

Without VDPAU you will most likely have poor performance playing HD video's at full resolution.

The mplayer in zenana's repo has the VDPAU flag set. And your card does support it.

- This extension should be included only from driver version 185.18.04

This is just not true.
VDPAU has been supported in NVIDIA drivers for sometime now. All 180.xx and above drivers implement the API.

Sabayon will never package the nvidia drivers that are in beta status. If you want to use beta drivers you will have to install them yourself. I'm not a part of the Sabayon team so, if I've mispoken on this my bad. If you want to start introducing possible unstable software to your machine that is up to you. However, ask yourself this: Why should a company/team ever ship a stable OS with possibly unstable software? You might be able to talk the Zenana or Naendo community repository managers to start packaging the beta drivers or start your own. But, I would not expect any OS to put them in their official package tree.

Now, me personally I've run nvidia's beta drivers for quite sometime usually with performance gains and hardly ever a stability issue.

============================================================================================

FX 4600, FX 5600: No
FX 4800, FX 5800: Yes (MPEG and H.264, no VC-1)

The complete list of current Quadro cards that will work with VDPAU right now:

MPEG, H.264:

Quadro FX 360M
Quadro FX 370
Quadro FX 570
Quadro FX 570M
Quadro FX 770M
Quadro FX 1600M
Quadro FX 1700
Quadro FX 2700M
Quadro FX 3600M
Quadro FX 3700
Quadro FX 4800
Quadro FX 5800
Quadro NVS 140M
Quadro NVS 130M
Quadro NVS 135M
Quadro NVS 290
Quadro NVS 320M

MPEG, H.264, VC-1:

Quadro FX 370 LP
Quadro NVS 150M
Quadro NVS 160M
Quadro NVS 295
Quadro NVS 420
Quadro NVS 450
If you check the wiki, use the search function and google you can find the answer to most of your questions.

Remember to mark your thread [Solved] if your issue is fixed.
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Re: HD video playing on SL 4.1

Postby thenthenio » Sun Apr 26, 2009 11:17

THANK YOU for the answer kodiakmax!
Sometimes ago I personally saw driver 180.xx-beta on the main Sabayon repo, but this does not matter!
The important thing is that you are saying that VDPAU support is already here in x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-180.41-r1!
So I just need to emerge mplayer from Zenana overlay!!!

I will try soon!
Thank you again.
Mauro
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Re: HD video playing on SL 4.1

Postby thenthenio » Sun Apr 26, 2009 13:59

I merged naendo and zenana repos and installed mplayer from them, anyway it seems vdpau USE flag is not set and mplayer works as before...
Correct repository strings for naendo and zenana are wrong both in the forum and in the wiki, correct ones are:
Naendo:
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repository|naendo|Naendo Community Repo|http://v00d00.net|http://v00d00.net#bz2

Zenana:
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repository|zenana|Zenana x86-64|http://v00d00.net|http://v00d00.net#bz2


Thank you anyway.
Mauro
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Re: HD video playing on SL 4.1 -> READ HERE

Postby thenthenio » Sun Apr 26, 2009 17:17

I checked:
VDPAU support:
- Nvidia drivers > 180.35 http://blog.mymediasystem.net/avchd/vdpau-does-my-card-support-vc-1/.
- GeForce 8 Sereies or newer: http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=128801.
Anyway I managed to emerge mplayer with VDPAU support and the minimum flags that are needed are in the following command:
USE="vdpau video_cards_nvidia" emerge mplayer

I hope this could be useful to somebody else trying to play HD video on SL!

Cheers.
Mauro
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Re: HD video playing on SL 4.1 -> READ HERE

Postby Thev00d00 » Sun Apr 26, 2009 17:30

I play HD video 1080p with DTS with compiz on with about 3% CPU usage WITHOUT vdpau, remember you have to tell mplayer to use vdpau every time you want it
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Re: HD video playing on SL 4.1 -> READ HERE

Postby thenthenio » Sun Apr 26, 2009 17:52

Thev00d00,
my CPU is about 70% but anyway video is choppy.
On the desktop I have a 7600 which is not supported, so no way until I upgrade HW!
All the people I know (also in Windoz) has problems with HD video...
What PC configuration do you have?

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Re: HD video playing on SL 4.1 -> Read Here

Postby thenthenio » Sun Apr 26, 2009 19:55

Ok with the VDPAU-enabled mplayer I tested the HD video, here are the results:
- On the desktop PC
-vo vdpau option results in an error and the video plays with audio only (7600 is not supported).
- On the laptop PC the -vo vdpau option added to the command line gives absolutely NO advantage comapared with conventional mplayer (seems like it is a fake or threse is nothing behind it).
So, up to now, VDPAU is absolutely no use at least with mplayer.

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Re: HD video playing on SL 4.1 -> Read Here

Postby thenthenio » Sun Apr 26, 2009 20:46

I've also found a very small utility to test if your hardware supports VDPAU!!!
Here it is:
http://www.cs.rug.nl/~wladimir/vdpinfo/
After downloading it simply do (as root):
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# cd /usr/src
# tar xvzf ~/vdpinfo-0.0.5.tar.gz
# cd vdpinfo
# make
# ./vdpinfo

Here is the result for the desktop (with a GeForce 7600 series that has no support for VDPAU):
display: :0.0 screen: 0
Error creating VDPAU device: 1

And here is the result on the laptop (with a Quadro 570M):
display: :0.0 screen: 0
API version: 0
Information string: Unknown

Video surface:

name width height types
-------------------------------------------
420 4096 4096 NV12 YV12
422 4096 4096 UYVY YUYV

Decoder capabilities:

name level macbs width height
------------------------------------
MPEG1 0 8192 2048 2048
MPEG2_SIMPLE 3 8192 2048 2048
MPEG2_MAIN 3 8192 2048 2048
H264_MAIN 41 8192 2048 2048
H264_HIGH 41 8192 2048 2048
VC1_SIMPLE 1 8190 2048 2048
VC1_MAIN 2 8190 2048 2048
VC1_ADVANCED 4 8190 2048 2048

Output surface:

name width height nat types
----------------------------------------------------
B8G8R8A8 8192 8192 y Y8U8V8A8 V8U8Y8A8
R10G10B10A2 8192 8192 y Y8U8V8A8 V8U8Y8A8

Bitmap surface:

name width height
------------------------------
B8G8R8A8 8192 8192
R8G8B8A8 8192 8192
R10G10B10A2 8192 8192
B10G10R10A2 8192 8192
A8 8192 8192

Video mixer:

feature name sup
------------------------------------
DEINTERLACE_TEMPORAL y
DEINTERLACE_TEMPORAL_SPATIAL y
INVERSE_TELECINE y
NOISE_REDUCTION y
SHARPNESS y
LUMA_KEY y

parameter name sup min max
-----------------------------------------------------
VIDEO_SURFACE_WIDTH y 1 4096
VIDEO_SURFACE_HEIGHT y 1 4096
CHROMA_TYPE y
LAYERS y 0 4

attribute name sup min max
-----------------------------------------------------
BACKGROUND_COLOR y
CSC_MATRIX y
NOISE_REDUCTION_LEVEL y 0.00 1.00
SHARPNESS_LEVEL y -1.00 1.00
LUMA_KEY_MIN_LUMA y
LUMA_KEY_MAX_LUMA y


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Re: HD video playing on SL 4.1 -> Read Here

Postby kodiakmax » Mon Apr 27, 2009 6:44

If you want info about VDPAU get it from the horses mouth...
http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=123091

You can find H.264 clips here:
http://www.h264info.com/clips.html

I see big performance difference with and without VDPAU.
playing the 1080p I Am Legend BLURAY clip from the link above
using VDPAU: avg cpu% mplayer use is around 15%
using gl: avg cpu% mplayer use is around 50%
Not to mention the perceived stuttering/choppiness

Not only that but with the gl driver mplayer tells me: "Your system is too SLOW to play this! "

If I try to use xv as the driver it won't play the video

here are my specs:
CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T7500 @ 2.20GHz
Memory: 3919 MB
OS Version: Linux 2.6.29-sabayon #1 SMP Fri Apr 3 07:57:26 UTC 2009 x86_64
Graphics Card Vendor: NVIDIA Corporation
Graphics Card: GeForce 8700M GT/PCI/SSE2
OpenGL Version: 3.0.0 NVIDIA 180.44


mplayer output with VDPAU driver:
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 mplayer -vo vdpau I*.mp4
MPlayer SVN-r28734-4.3.3 (C) 2000-2009 MPlayer Team
Can't open joystick device /dev/input/js0: No such file or directory
Can't init input joystick
mplayer: could not connect to socket
mplayer: No such file or directory
Failed to open LIRC support. You will not be able to use your remote control.

Playing I Am Legend - Trailer.mp4.
libavformat file format detected.
[lavf] Video stream found, -vid 0
[lavf] Audio stream found, -aid 1
VIDEO:  [avc1]  1920x816  24bpp  23.976 fps    0.0 kbps ( 0.0 kbyte/s)
==========================================================================
Opening video decoder: [ffmpeg] FFmpeg's libavcodec codec family
Selected video codec: [ffh264] vfm: ffmpeg (FFmpeg H.264)
==========================================================================
==========================================================================
Opening audio decoder: [faad] AAC (MPEG2/4 Advanced Audio Coding)
FAAD: compressed input bitrate missing, assuming 128kbit/s!
AUDIO: 48000 Hz, 2 ch, s16le, 128.0 kbit/8.33% (ratio: 16000->192000)
Selected audio codec: [faad] afm: faad (FAAD AAC (MPEG-2/MPEG-4 Audio))
==========================================================================
[AO OSS] audio_setup: Can't open audio device /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy
AO: [alsa] 48000Hz 2ch s16le (2 bytes per sample)
Starting playback...
VDec: vo config request - 1920 x 816 (preferred colorspace: Planar YV12)
VDec: using Planar YV12 as output csp (no 0)
Movie-Aspect is 2.35:1 - prescaling to correct movie aspect.
VO: [vdpau] 1920x816 => 1920x816 Planar YV12
No bind found for key 'MOUSE_BTN2'.                         6% 41 0
A:  86.7 V:  86.7 A-V:  0.000 ct: -0.020   0/  0 52%  9%  2.6% 41 0
Exiting... (Quit)


mplayer output with gl driver:
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mplayer -vo gl I*.mp4
MPlayer SVN-r28734-4.3.3 (C) 2000-2009 MPlayer Team
Can't open joystick device /dev/input/js0: No such file or directory
Can't init input joystick
mplayer: could not connect to socket
mplayer: No such file or directory
Failed to open LIRC support. You will not be able to use your remote control.

Playing I Am Legend - Trailer.mp4.
libavformat file format detected.
[lavf] Video stream found, -vid 0
[lavf] Audio stream found, -aid 1
VIDEO:  [avc1]  1920x816  24bpp  23.976 fps    0.0 kbps ( 0.0 kbyte/s)
[gl] using extended formats. Use -vo gl:nomanyfmts if playback fails.
==========================================================================
Opening video decoder: [ffmpeg] FFmpeg's libavcodec codec family
Selected video codec: [ffh264] vfm: ffmpeg (FFmpeg H.264)
==========================================================================
==========================================================================
Opening audio decoder: [faad] AAC (MPEG2/4 Advanced Audio Coding)
FAAD: compressed input bitrate missing, assuming 128kbit/s!
AUDIO: 48000 Hz, 2 ch, s16le, 128.0 kbit/8.33% (ratio: 16000->192000)
Selected audio codec: [faad] afm: faad (FAAD AAC (MPEG-2/MPEG-4 Audio))
==========================================================================
[AO OSS] audio_setup: Can't open audio device /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy
AO: [alsa] 48000Hz 2ch s16le (2 bytes per sample)
Starting playback...
VDec: vo config request - 1920 x 816 (preferred colorspace: Planar YV12)
Could not find matching colorspace - retrying with -vf scale...
Opening video filter: [scale]
VDec: using Planar YV12 as output csp (no 0)
Movie-Aspect is 2.35:1 - prescaling to correct movie aspect.
[swscaler @ 0xd35340]using unscaled yuv420p -> rgb32 special converter
VO: [gl] 1920x816 => 1920x816 BGRA
A:  36.5 V:  36.0 A-V:  0.497 ct: -0.020   0/  0 35% 29%  2.1% 71 0

           ************************************************
           **** Your system is too SLOW to play this!  ****
           ************************************************

Possible reasons, problems, workarounds:
- Most common: broken/buggy _audio_ driver
  - Try -ao sdl or use the OSS emulation of ALSA.
  - Experiment with different values for -autosync, 30 is a good start.
- Slow video output
  - Try a different -vo driver (-vo help for a list) or try -framedrop!
- Slow CPU
  - Don't try to play a big DVD/DivX on a slow CPU! Try some of the lavdopts,
    e.g. -vfm ffmpeg -lavdopts lowres=1:fast:skiploopfilter=all.
- Broken file
  - Try various combinations of -nobps -ni -forceidx -mc 0.
- Slow media (NFS/SMB mounts, DVD, VCD etc)
  - Try -cache 8192.
- Are you using -cache to play a non-interleaved AVI file?
  - Try -nocache.
Read DOCS/HTML/en/video.html for tuning/speedup tips.
If none of this helps you, read DOCS/HTML/en/bugreports.html.

A:  84.8 V:  84.5 A-V:  0.261 ct: -0.020   0/  0 49% 28%  1.9% 638 0
Exiting... (Quit)



And yes the mplayer in zenana does have vdpau flag set. Here is the result from my equo search. Make sure you are looking at the correct mplayer when you do your search (there is more than one package listed when you have the extra repos enabled)
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   #2 Zenana x86-64
>>      @@ Package: media-video/mplayer-20090226.28734          branch: 4
>>        Category:             media-video
>>        Name:                 mplayer
>>        Masked:               False
>>        Available:            version: 20090226.28734 ~ tag: NoTag ~ revision: 1
>>        Installed:            version: 20090226.28734 ~ tag: NoTag ~ revision: 1
>>        Slot:                 0
>>        Size:                 8.9MB
>>        Download:             packages/amd64/4/media-video:mplayer-20090226.28734~1.tbz2
>>        Checksum:             f344d7169e37a7a612c99818b5f91d1b
>>        ## Dependencies:
>>        ##                     [0] media-libs/netpbm
>>        ##                     [0] media-libs/libdca
>>        ##                     [0] media-libs/aalib
>>        ##                     [0] dev-libs/libcdio
>>        ##                     [0] media-libs/faad2
>>        ##                     [0] x11-libs/libXvMC
>>        ##                     [0] media-sound/pulseaudio
>>        ##                     [0] media-libs/libsdl
>>        ##                     [0] media-libs/libpng
>>        ##                     [0] media-sound/lame
>>        ##                     [0] media-tv/linuxtv-dvb-headers
>>        ##                     [0] media-libs/libdv
>>        ##                     [0] >=media-libs/libmpcdec-1.2.2
>>        ##                     [0] media-libs/libmng
>>        ##                     [0] >=media-libs/freetype-2.1
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>>        ##                     [0] app-misc/lirc
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>>        ##                     [0] media-libs/alsa-lib
>>        ##                     [0] app-arch/unrar
>>        ##                     [0] x11-libs/libXxf86vm
>>        ##                     [0] sys-libs/ncurses
>>        ##                     [0] x11-libs/libXxf86dga
>>        ##                     [0] x11-libs/libXScrnSaver
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>>        ##                     [0] dev-libs/fribidi
>>        ##                     [0] media-libs/jpeg
>>        ##                     [0] media-libs/schroedinger
>>        ##                     [0] virtual/opengl
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>>        ##                     [0] media-sound/twolame
>>        ##                     [0] >=media-libs/speex-1.1.7
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>>        ##                     [0] >=media-plugins/live-2007.02.20
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>>        ##                     [0] >=media-libs/x264-0.0.20080406
>>        ##                     [0] >=dev-libs/lzo-2
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>>        ##                     [0] =x11-libs/gtk+-2*
>>        ##                     [0] media-sound/jack-audio-connection-kit:0
>>        Homepage:             http://www.mplayerhq.hu/
>>        Description:          Media Player for Linux
>>        USE flags:            speex cdparanoia rtc xscreensaver
>>                              jpeg sdl tga radio mp3 unicode x264
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>>        License:              GPL-2


here is my repository conf
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repository|zenana|Zenana x86-64|http://entropy3.hyperfish.org|http://entropy3.hyperfish.org#bz2#2323,2424
repository|naendo|Naendo Community Repo|http://entropy3.hyperfish.org|http://entropy3.hyperfish.org#bz2#2323,2424
repository|naendo||http://entropy.v00d00.net|
repository|naendo||http://entropy4.hyperfish.org|
repository|naendo||http://entropy3.hyperfish.org|
repository|naendo||http://entropy.hyperfish.org|
If you check the wiki, use the search function and google you can find the answer to most of your questions.

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