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Systemd-Why? [Solved]

Postby nobicycle » Sun Nov 17, 2013 1:06

The reason for migrating Sabayon to systemd seems to have gone away:
"Developers deny Gnome dependent on systemd"
http://lxer.com/module/newswire/ext_link.php?rid=194478

In the meantime, Sabayon MATE 13.11 boots fine but then I'm left scrambling for systemd scripts, for example for ipblock.

Shaving off 2s from boot time and following the hype about systemd do not compensate for the important reasons not to adopt systemd:
    Hard-to-debug monolithic startup in undocumented C
    Timer-based Activation:proprietary
    Size and complexity: 900 files, 224k lines
https://forum.sabayon.org/viewtopic.php?f=57&t=30530

Systemd appears to be another "Linux Gnome Shell" story of some developers charging in an umwanted and unecessary direction.

Do Sabayon server flavors also run systemd by default?

Suggest an Anaconda flag to give users choice.

Switching back to openrc. Will "equo remove" the following be sufficient to get rid of systemd?
sys-apps/gentoo-systemd-integration
sys-apps/systemd-204
sys-apps/systemd-204-r20
Last edited by nobicycle on Tue Nov 19, 2013 18:38, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: Systemd-Why?

Postby Stupot » Sun Nov 17, 2013 18:52

Giving users the choice at install time is not a good idea. The average user doesn't care and a beginner wouldn't understand the option. You have the ability to switch to openrc (for now at least) post installation. Everybody's needs are met.

As far removing systemd files, I'm not really sure, but unless you're hurting for disk space, there's no real harm in having them, even if you aren't using them. Who doesn't like having a backup init system that they hate?
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Re: Systemd-Why?

Postby nobicycle » Mon Nov 18, 2013 4:15

Understood Stupot.
Thanks for the advice.
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Re: Systemd-Why?

Postby sqlpython » Mon Nov 18, 2013 16:05

Who doesn't like having a backup init system that they hate?

:wink: Can't argue with that ....... sage advice ..
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Re: Systemd-Why?

Postby nobicycle » Tue Nov 19, 2013 18:37

If yer can't beat em join em
The systemd service script for ipblock:

[Unit]
Description=a Linux application for blocking connections to and from a specified range of hosts using the netfilter netlink-queue library.
After=ufw.service

[Service]
Type=forking
PIDFile=/var/run/iplist.pid
ExecStart=/usr/sbin/ipblock -s
ExecStop=/usr/sbin/ipblock -d

[Install]
WantedBy=multi-user.target
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