sweet! thanx! All is better now, and I don't have my OCD smacking my head going "ITS WRONG STUPID! FIX IT! FIX IT! FIX IT!"
I just thought it was something that would be fixed over time but it took sooo long I just got tired of waiting and so I said something about it.
All is once again right with the world..... except for the fact that loop3 is still bugging me about its bugs