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Postby deadfool » Fri Jun 20, 2008 23:48

am i the only one that runs entropy or doesnt anyone have problems with it?
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Re: entropy

Postby lxnay » Sat Jun 21, 2008 0:30

me too :alien:
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Re: entropy

Postby DHalens » Sat Jun 21, 2008 1:20

I use entropy and i usually have problems with it but lxnay always solve them quickly (last one was today and he solved it in 3,5 hours :alien: ) so it's hard to see a bug open. :P
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Re: entropy

Postby joost » Sat Jun 21, 2008 14:00

Entropy?

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Re: entropy

Postby sjieke » Sun Jun 22, 2008 12:51

Hello,

I use entropy also, and it is working great, except for the speed.
Yesterday I did a fresh install of the 3.5 loop3. In the package selection I only selected xfce, disabled all the other and didn't fine tune the packages. To have a basic system with only Xfce desktop. Install went smooth (except for keyboard layout) and finished in +-45 min.
Then I installed spritz using
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equo install spritz

this pulled in all needed dependencies and installed in +-15 min.
Then it was time to update everything, so I started 'etc-applet' and let it do its thing. If it was finished it said that there were updates, I opened spritz and first did only an update of equo, entropy en spritz. I restarted spritz (to use the newly updated version), put all updates in the queue and started processing. This was 12 hours ago, so I went to bed and let it run.
The current status is 137/156, and still going. So that is 12 hours for 137 packages. In my opinion this is slow for binary installation.
My guess is that something isn't configured right, so wath is possibly causing this?

My system is a P4 2.6GHz, 512MB ram, Ati Radeon 9600 with 128MB VRAM.
Compiz is enabled and running and top gives as output
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top - 12:51:28 up 12:09,  1 user,  load average: 3.38, 3.56, 2.65
Tasks: 147 total,   3 running, 142 sleeping,   0 stopped,   2 zombie
Cpu(s):  8.5%us,  3.3%sy,  0.0%ni,  0.0%id, 87.9%wa,  0.1%hi,  0.1%si,  0.0%st
Mem:    510232k total,   504676k used,     5556k free,    15104k buffers
Swap:  1020116k total,    89744k used,   930372k free,   127992k cached


If there is anything else you need, let me know

Sjieke

EDIT: Forgot to mention the equo version
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Crashbox joachim # equo --version
Equo: v0.15.23.5
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Re: entropy

Postby lxnay » Sun Jun 22, 2008 14:42

Yes, our main mirror (garr.it) is down. Just disable it :)
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Re: entropy

Postby sjieke » Sun Jun 22, 2008 15:26

Ok,

A timeout on the main mirror (probalby +- 2min) could slow things down. I noticed this during the installation of 'spritz' and the 'equo, spritz and entropy' upgrade I did before updating everything (see previous post) and moved the 'gar.it' mirror down the list and made 'http://ftp.surfnet.nl/pub/os/Linux/distr/sabayonlinux/entropy' the first followed by 'http://cross-lfs.sabayonlinux.org/entropy' and then the 'garr.it' mirror.
According to the progress info shown in spritz I concluded that everything got downloaded first and then it started installing. So the 14 hours of installing (it finished a couple of minutes ago) didn't include the downloading. Because I saw it downloading stuff and it already installed 2 packages when I left my machine behind.

If I didn't make a mistake in my way of thinking there is another issue, maybe maintaining the synchronisation between portage and entropy?
Just trying to understand how it all fits together...
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Re: entropy

Postby sjieke » Wed Jun 25, 2008 8:45

Since nobody else addresses the speed of entropy I'm sure something is wrong with my install and/or my interpretation of speed is completely of.
Last I removed 63 packages (mostly drivers like 'xf86-input-penmount' that I don't need) and it took more than 3 hours, that is 3 min/package.
So I have a couple of questions:
1) Could someone tell me if those timings are normal so I know my system is healty?
2) If it is normal, I would like to have a little info on what entropy/equo/spritz needs to do (on a high level, ex. maintaining a cache, syncing the portage tree,...) during the install/removal of packages. Because 3 min. is a lot of time for a computer.
3) If it isn't normal, can someone point me in a direction were to look?

Kind regards
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P.S. I'm NOT complaining. I like entropy/equo a lot. It is almost always faster than emerge (especially for large packages) and the dependency checking is very good. It even detected that I wanted to remove a package part of a meta package. I just want to know what my system is doing.
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Re: entropy

Postby lxnay » Wed Jun 25, 2008 9:08

Removing a package should take seconds, not minutes. What Sabayon are you using? CPU? RAM?
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Re: entropy

Postby sjieke » Wed Jun 25, 2008 10:36

I use sabayon 3.5 loop 3, fresh install last weekend (see previous posts in this thread)

CPU: Pentium 4, 2.6 GHz
RAM: 512 MB
HDD: 120 GB - 3 partitions
* / 30 GB - ext3
* /home - 15 GB - xfs
* /mnt/storage - 75 GB - xfs
HDD: 250 GB - 1 partition
* /mnt/media - 250 GB -xfs
Video: ATI Radeon 9600 - 128 MB VRam
* currently using fglrx driver, shipped on the loop 3 dvd
Compiz: Enabled
DE: XFCE4 (less resources needed than KDE, resulting in usable desktop with compiz enabled)

I also tried with compiz disabled, but it is the same.
While removing I had +-150 MB Ram free.
I also noticed in the output window of spritz that the ebuild steps were the ones taking all the time. The data remove step was fast.

If you need other info or log files, let me know

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