ATI 9800 all help is appreciated 3D accel probl.

[CapnGimp]

Been at this for a few days, nothing in forums on it ...
No 3d acceleration available in accel-manager
I am using 3.4e today, past few days was trying with 3.4a, which I reloaded 4 times after trying all the things posted by MaGe to get ATI cards working with 3d acceleration
if there is a post, just give me the link
BIOSTAR M7NCG 400 (nforce2 chipset) motherboard, 2 gigs ram, ATI 9800 128mb video,
computer belongs to nephew
here is my xorg.conf file....

Section "Files"


#FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/local/"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/misc/"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/Type1/"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/TTF/"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/75dpi/"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/100dpi/"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/corefonts"

EndSection

# **********************************************************************
# Module section -- this is an optional section which is used to specify
# which run-time loadable modules to load when the X server starts up.
# **********************************************************************

Section "Module"

Load "dbe"
Load "i2c"
Load "glx"
Load "ddc"
Load "type1"
Load "freetype"
Load "extmod"
Load "synaptics"
Load "vbe"
Load "dri"

EndSection


# **********************************************************************
# Server flags section. This contains various server-wide Options.
# **********************************************************************

Section "ServerFlags"

Option "AllowMouseOpenFail" "true"

EndSection

# **********************************************************************
# Input devices
# **********************************************************************

# **********************************************************************
# Core keyboard's InputDevice section
# **********************************************************************

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Synaptics1"
Driver "synaptics"
Option "SendCoreEvents" "true"
Option "Device" "/dev/psaux"
Option "Protocol" "auto-dev"
Option "HorizScrollDelta" "0"
Option "SHMConfig" "on"
# For ALPS/MacBook TouchPads
#Option "MaxSpeed" "0.7"
#Option "MinSpeed" "0.18"
#Option "AccelFactor" "0.08"
#Option "TopEdge" "120"
#Option "LeftEdge" "120"
#Option "BottomEdge" "830"
#Option "RightEdge" "650"
#Option "FingerLow" "25"
#Option "FingerHigh" "30"
# MacBook touchpad
#Option "MaxTapTime" "180"
#Option "MaxTapMove" "220"
#Option "MaxDoubleTapTime" "180"
#Option "VertScrollDelta" "20"
#Option "HorizScrollDelta" "50"
#Option "TapButton2" "3"
#Option "TapButton3" "2"
#Option "VertTwoFingerScroll" "1"

# Do you keep moving the mouse while typing? Try this trick.
#synclient TouchpadOff=1 disable your synaptics touchpad
#synclient TouchpadOff=0 enable your synaptics touchpad
EndSection


Section "InputDevice"

Identifier "Keyboard1"
Driver "kbd"

Option "AutoRepeat" "500 5"
Option "XkbModel" "pc105"
Option "XkbLayout" "us"
Option "XkbRules" "xorg"
# Macintosh keyboard
#Option "XkbOptions" "lv3:rwin_switch"

EndSection


Section "InputDevice"
Driver "wacom"
Identifier "wacom1"
Option "Device" "/dev/wacom" # Change to
# /dev/input/event
# for USB
Option "Type" "stylus"
Option "ForceDevice" "ISDV4" # Tablet PC ONLY
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Driver "wacom"
Identifier "wacom2"
Option "Device" "/dev/wacom" # Change to
# /dev/input/event
# for USB
Option "Type" "eraser"
Option "ForceDevice" "ISDV4" # Tablet PC ONLY
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Driver "wacom"
Identifier "wacom3"
Option "Device" "/dev/wacom" # Change to
# /dev/input/event
# for USB
Option "Type" "cursor"
Option "ForceDevice" "ISDV4" # Tablet PC ONLY
EndSection


# **********************************************************************
# Core Pointer's InputDevice section
# **********************************************************************

Section "InputDevice"

# Identifier and driver

Identifier "Mouse1"
Driver "mouse"

Option "Device" "/dev/psaux"
Option "Protocol" "ImPS/2"
Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"

EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Mouse2"
Driver "mouse"
Option "Protocol" "ImPS/2"
Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
EndSection


# **********************************************************************
# Monitor section
# **********************************************************************

# Any number of monitor sections may be present

Section "Monitor"

Identifier "Generic Monitor"
#Option "DPMS"

VertRefresh 50-75
HorizSync 30-82

EndSection

# **********************************************************************
# Graphics device section
# **********************************************************************

# Any number of graphics device sections may be present

Section "Device"
Identifier "VESA"
Driver "fglrx" # do not remove vesa
#Option "RenderAccel" "on"
#Option "XAANoOffscreenPixmaps"
#Option "BusType" "PCI"
#Option "ColorTiling" "on"
#Option "EnablePageFlip" "on"
EndSection


# **********************************************************************
# Screen sections.
# **********************************************************************

Section "Screen"

# The Identifier, Device and Monitor lines must be present

Identifier "Screen 1"
Device "VESA"
Monitor "Generic Monitor"
#Option "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "true"

# The favoured Depth and/or Bpp may be specified here

DefaultDepth 24

SubSection "Display"
Depth 8
ViewPort 0 0
Modes "1280x1024" "1152x864" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubsection

SubSection "Display"
Depth 16
ViewPort 0 0
Modes "1280x1024" "1152x864" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubsection

SubSection "Display"
Depth 24
ViewPort 0 0
Modes "1280x1024" "1152x864" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubsection


EndSection


Section "ServerLayout"
# The Identifier line must be present

Identifier "Main Layout"
Screen 0 "Screen 1"
InputDevice "Mouse1" "CorePointer"
InputDevice "Mouse2" "SendCoreEvents"
#InputDevice "Synaptics1" "SendCoreEvents"
#InputDevice "wacom1" "SendCoreEvents"
#InputDevice "wacom2" "SendCoreEvents"
#InputDevice "wacom3" "SendCoreEvents"
InputDevice "Keyboard1" "CoreKeyboard"

EndSection

Section "DRI"
Mode 0666
EndSection

Section "Extensions"
#Option "Composite" "Enable"
EndSection

[WarraWarra]

Any luck booting the live dvd pressing F5 and adding
vga=791 xdriver=ati res=1024x768
then once inside try to see if the 3d accelr manager works after selecting xgl when asked.

If this works in the live dvd then it should work in the installed as well and maybe mount the installed hd and copy the working /etc/X11/xorg.conf over to the hd.

Might also have to check the other xorg files there or rename them not sure here as it might be using a different file in another folder as default and this could be # load DRI instead of the one you posted not sure.

Hope this helps.

[CapnGimp]

Thanks for the help WarraWarra. I am doing installs on 3 computers simultaneously here, soon to be 4. I worked on my laptop until sunup this am and am back on my nephews puter now. I am going to try this and see how it goes. I have probs on all but the cutting edge computer with 3d acceleration, dang old ati cards, lol. Ironically the 3.4e live works on my laptop(3d accel) and looks GREAT, spinning cube and all, but most of the apps do NOT work. The hd install, I can't get past login-- kstartupconfig-- won't start. I adduser and reboot and got in with root afterwards, but it went straight to setting up KDE 3.5 and was S L O W as heck. Anyway, another amiNule, haha.
Gonna work on this 9800 with your solution now. Thanks again buddy. I'm about to get serious with Linux due to this distro, been putting it off since 97. Soon, no mas winderz and I'll be free

I like how someone edited my spelling of appreciaNated on this topic, that is an old phUnny weRd from my childhood, it was intentional..

[CapnGimp]

I'm on live now and it didn't change anything except I had music playing this time while it was still in graphical mode loading
I'm gonna look around some more and see if I can find something that works, Thanks again for your help ol man

[WarraWarra]

Wiki and gentoo.org forums / wiki somewhere there you would find someone that has it correctly setup and can just copy the /etc/X11/xorg.conf or possibly run the ati program / installer again ?? I know with my Nvidia it does a autoconfig at the end of the manual download / install one and sets everything perfectly , maybe ati has the same not sure.
Is there not a ati controll panel or " emerge -s dri " as I have seen something dri related that can change the settings for it like a gui program and this might as well fix it not sure.
LOL.

[maddogmaddog]

I believe that the support for the nForce/nForce2 chipset was left out the kernel...
I had to rebuild my kernel with this support found under Device Drivers-> Character devices-> NVIDIA nForce/nForce2

Now I get direct instead of indirect rendering
# glxinfo | grep direct
direct rendering: Yes

hope this helps

[CapnGimp]

Thanks a million I'll work with that to see what happens. I started this with 3.4a, and a couple days after tried 3.4e and have been unable to get it to work beyond install. First boot I get a kstartupconfig 'not working..... error and can't get far beyond this. This is on 3 different computers entirely. I have downloaded both 32 and 64 bit versions a few times for the respective computers MD5 checksums are fine, I burned each of 11 dvds with the slowest possible speed/with verify, on two different burners, with Cheetah, Nero 7, and Deep Burner each updated. I have been at it since this original post, all day every day AAAARGH ! LOL, I can't win for loosing. I am going to ORDER the two dvds and when they get here, I will try again.
It IS going to go on 4 computers, a new sys w/an Nvidia 8800GTS and the NV9800 that belong to my nephew,and 2 old sys that belong to me a laptop with ati9600 mobility and desktop with Geforce3 Ti 200 (I think). Anyway, I am going to do all that is necessary to put this distro on and I'm pretty sure you have hit the nail on the head. The chipset was where I was thinking the problem lies, before I 'graduated' to the 3.4e version and all it's associated tortures of the week.
Thanks again man!
John