3.4x86 X loads to a blank screen with NVIDIA GeForce 440Go

[archwndas]

emerge -f beryl only downloads the files, if you want to compile and install beryl you have to run it without -f

I see on my 3.4 system it wants to downgrade a couple of packages.

Try it and see for heaven's sake.

I have been using Gentoo for 4 years. I can assure you I know how emerge -f works. I just did it such I have the files downloaded and ready to be compiled. As I told you before the problem is that

emerge beryl

might not be enough. So I really do not want to mess my system as I did in the past, trying to install beryl from Gentoo. When Beryl is already installed you can do that. This is because some configuration files regarding its plugins are taken care by Sabayon developers so in that case emerge beryl justs updates the binary files. In my case where Beryl is not pre-installed I cannot do that because simply there is no guarantee that it will work. Take a look at this and you will understand what I mean:

http://gentoo-wiki.com/Beryl

[nickrout]

I think you really have to take the plunge. I don't see anything in the howto that involves anything you cannot undo with a few config files.

Perhaps too you might rethink whether you really need such a fancy window manager. The fact that your card does not have support in the latest nvidia-drivers may just be telling you that your system doesn't have the oomph to run such stuff. Do you really need windows that wiggle when you minimise them? I haven't actually found anything that is useful (as opposed to pretty) in beryl/compiz - perhaps i am missing the point?

Oh and one last point about nvidia-drivers - i seem to recall in the past that when you update them, you sometimes need to modprobe nvidia (and possibly modprobe -r nvidia first) before you use them the first time, particularly if you haven't rebooted.

[watson540]

ill add to that last post and say depmod -a and use eselect after that

[archwndas]

So Beryl and Sabayon 3.4. As you told me guys, I did

emerge beryl

and then run the beryl manager to see what happens. As I expected I had the same problems I had in the past with the installation of Beryl in Gentoo. I have no Window decoration and as soon Beryl loads the taskbar disappears. More over no plugins of Beryl seem to work. The cube is not rotated e.t.c.

So we have major problems. No Window Decoration and Taskbar Disappears.

As I told you I need advice from the professionals regarding Beryl installation. I told you that emerge beryl simply would not do the job.

[nickrout]

According to the wiki page there seems to be a step between emerging beryl and running the manager namely configuring X http://gentoo-wiki.com/Beryl#Configuring_XOrg - which of the options you should choose I am not sure. You may be out of help here, gentoo forums or mailing list may be better bets. I am struggling with it and simply pointing you to resources that I have found in the same way that you could.

You still haven't said why it is so important to make it work. There does come a point where the frustration of not being able to conquer a particular piece of technology becomes too much

[archwndas]

I am sorry, but that is not the point here. If you are not interested if this works or not then go to another post. Whether it is important or not this is a matter of personal taste. You are not to judge what is important and what is not important for each user but yourself. If you can live without it then that is fine. But since it is there and since it is provided why shouldn't it work.

If one follows the same spirit as yours, then why do we need KDE or GNOME or XFCE4 or any of that stuff. IceWM is just great. For some TWM is also great and the only thing they are working with. So please, get back to the point. Beryl was the standard in previous Sabayon versions and there must be a way to make it work. This is what we are after here.

[nickrout]

I guess my point is, "why is it so important on this piece off hardware, that doesn't seem to support the key technologies". Just something to think about.

Don't worry I know what its like just to want to do something for the challenge. I have spent hours working out obscure bits of linux to get various things working that no-one else in their right mind would do, eg working out how to get linux onto a tablet with no floppy or external drive, and without disassembly, when i could easily have taken the hard drive out, put it in the desktop, installed linux and put it back in the tablet. But no, I had to spend hours making it boot from etherboot just because I wanted to make it work.

So I know the drive to beat something that seems to have beaten you, but you also gotta realise that it just might not work, and evaluate how necessary it really is, and if it isn't necessary move on! Frankly I don't see any core functionality in Beryl/Compiz (unlike kde and gnome, both of which provide functionality that twm lacks). You may see it different which is what I weas trying to understand - whether you are another obsessive like me, or have some burning need for fancy graphics

Good luck with making it go, its not that I don't want to help further, its just I am all out of ideas (other than the pointer in my last post, and the tips about modprobe nvidia, neither of which you seem to have given feedback on).

[eshum]

Okay installed new Nvidia fx 5600 video card and everything is working (cube rotates). Works out to a thirty-five dollar fix that greatly improves my system. Now is there really a screaming good reason to upgrade to 3.4e! I really love Sabayon!

ed

[nickrout]

Unfortunately archwndas has a laptop so that is not a solution for him

Good to know you got it working though.

[archwndas]

NickRout, I have saved the Xorg.0.log, somewhere. Would that be helpful for you guys, to figure out what is going wrong?