Sabayon Linux x86/x86-64 1.0 "Business Edition" RE

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Postby Eden » Thu Jul 19, 2007 14:14

Dark_MaGe wrote:
piuemeno wrote:Ciao ragazzi :D tengo d'occhio sabayon da un bel pezzo... volevo farvi una domanda: questa business edition ha la possibilità di attivare compizfusion durante l'installazione?

perchè.... farebbe per me :P la sabayon normale c'ha i giochi, e sinceramente la mia ps2 fa la muffa....figuriamoci il mio pc :-D

Poi ho letto nel profilo Catania :shock: :D NON POSSO NON PROVARE questa nuova versione :lol: Sicilia inside :twisted:
this is an english forum, write on the italian one in italian, also to your question...no you can't install compiz fusion with be because of the stable branch, wait for 3.4 and then deselect the games if you're not interested in them during the installation

Well.. you could, its Gentoo after all. Not recommended though.
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Postby ThinkBayon » Thu Jul 19, 2007 14:20

wolfden wrote::?:

I don't see either one on the package list

I saw it was a Known Issue/Bug so I assumed it came installed.
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Postby alfa » Fri Jul 20, 2007 13:55

spiffytech wrote:Forgive my ignorance, but what is different about Business Edition? Is it the same stuff, less 3D desktops, but just the stable package versions? Are there any new packages to make business workstations/servers easier to use with Sabayon?



Very good question. Hopefully next release will be a real BE.
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Postby BlueJayofEvil » Fri Jul 20, 2007 18:50

Maybe the next BE could include Xara Xtreme Open Source Edition? It seems like a good app for graphic artists.
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Postby Bazzah » Mon Jul 23, 2007 15:30

disappointed - I downloaded this morning, booted up the DVD only to find that the xserver doesn't start, the d/l was good and DVD new.

I thought that was the kind of thing that only happened on Gentoo, lol.

Guess I'll just wait till 3.4 is out.
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Postby ThinkBayon » Mon Jul 23, 2007 15:41

I was going to keep using Sabayon Business. Until half of the programs I wanted to install were blocked by Masks. Ah, I love my Debian DVD! Not trying to trash the distro by any means, but this is a problem that needs to be fixed for a distro that should be easy to use.
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Postby Dark_MaGe » Mon Jul 23, 2007 22:54

ThinkBayon wrote:I was going to keep using Sabayon Business. Until half of the programs I wanted to install were blocked by Masks. Ah, I love my Debian DVD! Not trying to trash the distro by any means, but this is a problem that needs to be fixed for a distro that should be easy to use.
the fact that you don't know at all how portage works doesn't mean that everytime you try to upgrade something you trash the distro...you could simply change x86 into ~x86 in /etc/make.conf...but looks like you're more interested in complaining than in learning...and this is something I can happily say...keep your debian :) it will work better for you since you have no idea of what learning means :)...I still wonder.....really... :? :shock:
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Postby ThinkBayon » Tue Jul 24, 2007 2:08

Dark_MaGe wrote:
ThinkBayon wrote:I was going to keep using Sabayon Business. Until half of the programs I wanted to install were blocked by Masks. Ah, I love my Debian DVD! Not trying to trash the distro by any means, but this is a problem that needs to be fixed for a distro that should be easy to use.
the fact that you don't know at all how portage works doesn't mean that everytime you try to upgrade something you trash the distro...you could simply change x86 into ~x86 in /etc/make.conf...but looks like you're more interested in complaining than in learning...and this is something I can happily say...keep your debian :) it will work better for you since you have no idea of what learning means :)...I still wonder.....really... :? :shock:

Sigh...such arrogance on such a beautiful island. Sorry, but I'm Sicilian too and I had to flaunt my familiarity :^)

I read through the Portage section of the Gentoo Handbook, and I was unable to find my answer to the problem. The Masked and Unmasked files looked like a muddled mess to me, and what really bothered me wasn't that I couldn't get something done, it was that this was based on settings I had never set. Almost like I was using Ubuntu!

Having control of my system is important, and I found this sort of restriction very unintuitive. The error message I received was very uninformative, to say the least. In addition, the packages I was trying to install could in no way harm my system. Geany is a lightweight GTK IDE designed to have few dependencies...how could that harm my system? Portage didn't even give me the option to override: the machine had taken over.

Maybe I'll give Sabayon another try just a little down the road...but for now I prefer distributions that give me complete control: Debian, Slackware, and Arch.
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Postby wolfden » Tue Jul 24, 2007 2:47

:shock:

You didn't read what he said

look here:
http://gentoo-portage.com/dev-util/geany
notice:
~amd64 ~x86

BE is not built on ~x86, it's built on the stable branch x86


If you would learn how to unmask and what not you would not have a problem. It's not that hard to learn. You have just as much and more control if you know what you are doing. Learn the differences between the different branches and how to operate with the different branches. I posted resources to all this stuff. Even this quick guide tells you how http://linuxreviews.org/gentoo/emerge/#toc9

Learn your operating system before using.

wow, just wow
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Postby ThinkBayon » Tue Jul 24, 2007 4:04

So the package works on x86~ but no x86. Either I missed something, or there's no mention of the difference between these in the handbook. Their names don't even suggest much of a difference.

As for learning distributions, I've learned Slack, Debian, Arch, Red Hat, and a few others on the way. Is it wrong that I find Gentoo to be particularly labyrinthine?
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