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Sabayon Bus. Ed. 1.0 - No sound - Solved

Postby eco2geek » Wed Jul 18, 2007 6:57

- Running Small Business Edition 1.0 from live DVD
- Soundcard is a SoundBlaster Audigy OEM (emu10k1 driver)
- Running alsaconf as root generates the error message:

"modinfo: could not find module snd"

Sure enough, there's no "soundcore.ko" in /lib/modules/2.6.22-sabayon/kernel/sound/ or "snd.ko" in /lib/modules/2.6.22-sabayon/kernel/sound/core/.
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Postby WarraWarra » Wed Jul 18, 2007 7:20

Might try to "modprobe snd" or "insmod snd" or if that fails think "modprobe snd force=1"

How to install it if it is not yet isntalled = no idea here.

You can add it to " /etc/modules.autload.d/kernel-2.6 " and then it will load at start.

Hope this helps.
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Postby eco2geek » Thu Jul 19, 2007 5:55

I tried it on another box with an AC'97 chipset. The modules "snd" and "soundcore" are missing. As in, not there. (So are most of the snd-* modules in lib/modules/.../kernel/sound/core.)

Unless there's something new with kernel 2.6.22 that I'm missing, sound seems to be broken on this release.
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Postby Dark_MaGe » Thu Jul 19, 2007 10:00

you surely have a broken download or faulty dvd look here http://www.sabayonlinux.org/sabayon/kco ... ion.config and you'll notice that CONFIG_SND_EMU10K1 is set and compiled as module, so I can tell you that you should check if your iso md5 is exactly what is written on the the site and that your dvd support is not broken or your dvd reader is reading it correctly, moreover noone has complanied about audio problem so this is something specifically yours, that makes me think you have something wrong with your iso or your dvd
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Postby Guardfather » Thu Jul 19, 2007 11:18

I too have no sound... However, I'm not running Business Edition. I'm running 3.3 from the live DVD (trying it before I install it to my new HDD).

I've tried going through sound settings and turning up every volume setting I could find. I tried to select my SB Live card as the primary sound card either in system settings or some media player's settings. I still get no sound.

My system includes a P4C800E-Deluxe motherboard with onboard AC97 sound, an SB Live XGamer sound card, and an X-Fi Extreme Audio sound card. I have the onboard sound disabled in BIOS, but I believe it was still listed in Sabayon sound settings somewhere, whether I could select it or not.

Could it be a problem with multiple sound cards? These aren't exactly obscure cards, so I'm confident that it's not lack of support for either of them.
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Postby Dark_MaGe » Thu Jul 19, 2007 12:46

Guardfather wrote:I too have no sound... However, I'm not running Business Edition. I'm running 3.3 from the live DVD (trying it before I install it to my new HDD).

I've tried going through sound settings and turning up every volume setting I could find. I tried to select my SB Live card as the primary sound card either in system settings or some media player's settings. I still get no sound.

My system includes a P4C800E-Deluxe motherboard with onboard AC97 sound, an SB Live XGamer sound card, and an X-Fi Extreme Audio sound card. I have the onboard sound disabled in BIOS, but I believe it was still listed in Sabayon sound settings somewhere, whether I could select it or not.

Could it be a problem with multiple sound cards? These aren't exactly obscure cards, so I'm confident that it's not lack of support for either of them.
you might try running alsaconf and see if it solves your problem
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Postby eco2geek » Thu Jul 19, 2007 18:16

Dark_MaGe wrote:you surely have a broken download or faulty dvd look here http://www.sabayonlinux.org/sabayon/kco ... ion.config and you'll notice that CONFIG_SND_EMU10K1 is set and compiled as module, so I can tell you that you should check if your iso md5 is exactly what is written on the the site and that your dvd support is not broken or your dvd reader is reading it correctly, moreover noone has complanied about audio problem so this is something specifically yours, that makes me think you have something wrong with your iso or your dvd


My DVD isn't faulty. Everything else works just fine.

Yes, the emu10k1 module is there and loaded by ALSA. (As a matter of fact, "alsaconfig" loads every sound module it can find.) My contention is that the emu10k1 module depends upon the "soundcore" module, which is missing. (Looking at "modules.dep" on my Debian box confirms this.) Is "soundcore" there when you run the live DVD?

Guardfather, sometimes KMix will turn on switches by default (with my card it's usually the Audigy A/D output jack) that keep sound from being routed to your speakers. So you might check KMix's "Switches" tab and make sure they're all turned off.
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Postby WarraWarra » Thu Jul 19, 2007 20:57

Dark_MaGe wrote:you surely have a broken download or faulty dvd look here http://www.sabayonlinux.org/sabayon/kco ... ion.config and you'll notice that CONFIG_SND_EMU10K1 is set and compiled as module, so I can tell you that you should check if your iso md5 is exactly what is written on the the site and that your dvd support is not broken or your dvd reader is reading it correctly, moreover noone has complanied about audio problem so this is something specifically yours, that makes me think you have something wrong with your iso or your dvd


I have seen this and the autofs = no config above autofs4=y. I have also seen i8k=y but I can not get the i8k module to load from i8k.o , i8k.ko , i8k.ko.gz using insmod / modprobe , /etc/modules.autload.d/kern-2.6
Conclusion is either it was modified after BE was created or it is not implemented yet or something not sure what.
Sound is working on mine sigmatel 92xx / intel and this is what is loaded.
Code: Select all
localhost ~ # lsmod
Module                  Size  Used by
ipv6                  261700  10
ndiswrapper           171548  0
snd_seq_dummy           4868  0
snd_seq_oss            30592  0
snd_seq_midi_event      7936  1 snd_seq_oss
snd_seq                47472  5 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi_event
snd_seq_device          8844  3 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq
i915                   23552  0
drm                    77332  1 i915
ipw2200               139080  0
ieee80211              32712  1 ipw2200
ieee80211_crypt_tkip    11648  0
ieee80211_crypt         6912  2 ieee80211,ieee80211_crypt_tkip
nvidia               7249428  26
b44                    26000  0
ssb                    28676  1 b44
pcmcia                 38316  1 ssb
i2c_i801                9360  0
iTCO_wdt               11684  0
iTCO_vendor_support     4868  1 iTCO_wdt
i2c_core               24832  2 nvidia,i2c_i801
intel_agp              24340  0
snd_hda_intel         239768  0
joydev                 10688  0
pcspkr                  4096  0
tg3                   101380  0
e1000                 112576  0
scsi_wait_scan          2432  0
sl811_hcd              12800  0
uhci_hcd               23824  0
ehci_hcd               32140  0
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Postby eco2geek » Sat Jul 21, 2007 10:09

It's not a case of missing modules; "aplay" works fine.

The problem seems to be that KDE mainly uses Ogg Vorbis for most of its sound files (including for the "Test Sound" button in KControl's "Sound System" module), and for some reason, ARTS isn't playing them. WAV files play just fine. (So when I got nothing when I pressed "Test Sound," I assumed...but I was wrong.)

When the files are switched from *.ogg to *.wav in System Notifications, everything works fine.

/usr/bin/ogg123 plays *.ogg files fine from the command line. So something with ARTS' handling of OGG files is apparently messed up.

<edit> And one solution to that is to set the external player in KDE's System Notifications applet (under "Player Settings") to /usr/bin/play. Still don't get anything when pressing the "Test Sound" button, but system notification files in *.ogg format now work fine.
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Postby WarraWarra » Sat Jul 21, 2007 19:06

Is this the fix for it likely not but could work. PS> post on kde forums and gcheck gentoo.org forums as well.
This could fix it not sure have to play with it a bit.
Now start the fualt finding and elimination process. If one part is good then move on to the next untill all is tested and or fualt found.

Old days I used to fix similar stuff with running alsaconf in terminal as root.
What has this to do with KDE = if it has a good / properly recognised sound driver the test sound ends up working well or should and should show a midi device there , hopefully not always.

Next you might have to play a bit with the settings there and change stuff around to figure out what is going on to cause this bug. midi change to none if it shows a midi device.
Also might have to make sure that the kde sound part is properly installed and or sound programs is properly installed.

"emerge -D kde" ?? or "emerge -uD system" or "emerge -uD kde"
replacing the kde??? with a kde part that is sound related.
Check using kuroo and it's search part for "sound" or "audio" or using "emerge -s sound" or similar.

Once this is fixed up and or working then there should be no reason for it not to work.
File association but that is set by default or possibly the last audio program you installed to be the defualt program.

Hope this gets you started or helps.
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