Partition questions, basically the best performance

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Partition questions, basically the best performance

Postby Bradford1040 » Thu Sep 27, 2012 2:51

I have a 64gb ssd that I now use as the boot and root and a 1tb hd as the home for a Debian install

I was well going to switch to Sabayon as it seems to be just what I have been wanting, I am a AAA gamer

so Playonlinux and or winetricks and such will be the most used and as well a NTFS partition which makes no difference really but just putting it out there that has my movies on it

I search the net just like most geeks lol so the fact is I am not real hip on the best partitioning for Linux just have gone with what has worked for me so far, but as all I am learning more and more everyday and this is my newest challenge.

just to put it out again my set up now is

on 64gb ssd
/dev/sda1 ---ext4----- /root & boot
on 1tb hd and logical not primary
/dev/sda5 ---swap----- /swap
/dev/sda6 ---ext4----- /home

would this serve me well now as well or is there a better use of the space?
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Re: Partition questions, basically the best performance

Postby wolfden » Fri Sep 28, 2012 5:49

it's all basically preference

ext4 should be nice and stable for ya.
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Re: Partition questions, basically the best performance

Postby Bradford1040 » Fri Sep 28, 2012 10:05

wolfden wrote:it's all basically preference

ext4 should be nice and stable for ya.



Well I understand your point but I have seen where some have multi partitions and the /tmp and etc... and I was just trying to find a good stable setup lol might sound stupid but I am just trying to learn if there is any advantage to spliting it up like that (seen like ten different partitions) cant remember all the folders names but if it is unessisary why did they do it?

I would just like to know is all and learn
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Re: Partition questions, basically the best performance

Postby wolfden » Fri Sep 28, 2012 12:03

I would say people do it more so for a "safety net". If one partition goes bad it doesn't take out the whole system. If you have more than one distro installed, you can share like /home. You can keep files that grow from crippling your system like log files. They can only fill up their partition instead of taking up the entire system.

I keep it simple myself with / and /swap and that is it. I'm not doing mission critical things and I keep important files backed up to another drive. It don't take me long to wipe and restore my stuff.

So it's all preference and how you use your computer.
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Re: Partition questions, basically the best performance

Postby MelRay » Fri Sep 28, 2012 13:05

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_file_systems

Gives you a rundown on most linux filesystems as well as others. If you click the link to ReiserFS for example you can review under what conditions this filesystem will work at optimum. As stated previously it is a matter of choice, however if for example you have very large files then a partition with a filesystem that works best on large files can be created and formatted increasing speed and efficiency when accessing large file sizes.
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Re: Partition questions, basically the best performance

Postby Bradford1040 » Mon Oct 01, 2012 10:56

A Big thank you to everyone! I know it might have been a old question and maybe even one that should have been known by me, but I just never really knew why so figured I would ask. So once again thank you!

I still haven't installed Sabayon on my system main system yet but am running it the house hold, I really like it so far even with out using it myself and just watching it install steam game after steam game with ease! I have been trying this feet on Debian 7 (sid/wheezy) for a month with no luck!

I will report back after I put it through what I call the noob Linux user bases lol (namely me using it lol) and tell you if I am going to stick with it!

I got the Linux bug about a year ago maybe a bit longer and have been looking for a OS that works as this one seems to.

Anyway it goes you team has done a great job and should be proud! Thanks for all those that don't let you know what a great job you are doing!


AFTER EDIT----- After doing a bit of reading I am interested in the Btrfs or ZFS file system any sugestions of setting that up?
I have seen where grub and grub2 don't play nice with it (hence don't work lol) so I know the boot at least needs to be ext4 but I like the sound of progress of this file system so any hints?

OR am I just jumping ahead way to quickly? Sorry if I am anoyying anyone. Just like to learn all I can when I can. The BTRFS seems to have some good points but also seen on Gentoo forums where it was disliked??? I have no problem staying with what works but if this newer FS optimises space better that would be great for a long hual OS which I plan this OS to be

I want a good file system with data back up, This is most likely the worst part after countless Distro's and trying out many different versions of them all I found one I think I really like and now I have even more choices lol for a FS lol

I have one 64gb ssd and (2) 1tb drives willing to dedicate to this OS and Steam games will most likely fill up a good portion of the home folder as well as graphic art (my kid is in to drawing big time) so if anyone has anything to add to my wild questions have add it
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Re: Partition questions, basically the best performance

Postby micia » Fri Oct 19, 2012 16:38

if you want reliability I suggest you to stay away from BTRFS, it is still experimental (very experimental).
You could check out ZFS which is more stable, but it is also under heavy development.
:arrow: viewtopic.php?f=57&t=28018&p=153383#p153228
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Re: Partition questions, basically the best performance

Postby kenoby » Fri Oct 19, 2012 16:52

micia wrote:if you want reliability I suggest you to stay away from BTRFS, it is still experimental (very experimental).
You could check out ZFS which is more stable, but it is also under heavy development.
:arrow: viewtopic.php?f=57&t=28018&p=153383#p153228


Out of curiosity, what you do see as an issue so far with BTRFS?

I'm personally having /home and / as btrfs partitions on SSD and so far its working flawlessly. I've seen bigger performance improvements from 3.4 kernel though.
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Re: Partition questions, basically the best performance

Postby micia » Fri Oct 19, 2012 17:40

BTRFS could eat lots of resources while using many snapshots, also data integrity isn't guaranteed since it is not yet considered a stable filesystem, this makes it a bad choice if you aim to have a stable system where you can store your data safely.
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Re: Partition questions, basically the best performance

Postby kenoby » Fri Oct 19, 2012 17:57

micia wrote:BTRFS could eat lots of resources while using many snapshots, also data integrity isn't guaranteed since it is not yet considered a stable filesystem, this makes it a bad choice if you aim to have a stable system were you can store your data safely.


Haven't had a chance to play with snapshots yet (I would assume that I should have both / and/home on same partition and then have snapshots set up) so I'm unaware of the resource consumption.
Main reason for me to go with btrfs is SSD as it seems to be mainly advertised as a go-to solution. The filesystems are a long time now on my to read list, everytime I'd start I would get lost in the subject so it gets postponed often. LVM is also something I would like to have a look into (is is preffered by installer cause it's anaconda?)
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