Ophan packages

[sinayion]

Hi all,

I've gone through the wiki and the forums, but I haven't found an explicit command to remove ophan packages from a Sabayon system.

Am I missing the obvious? Is this even possible/recommended?

Thanks.

[mélodie]

Perhaps there aren't unneeded orphans ?

[sinayion]

Well, gentoo has the option, unless I am mistaken.

[albfneto]

Gentoo systems have some cross-linked dependencies, Many Orphaned packages are not really orphaned, but sometimes they still are needed packages...

The command for remove orphaned packages appears after you make "equo upgrade" but it claims that the installed package in your system will not be disponible in the repos in the future, may no future new versions, but you can mantain it, the last version, ou you llose package.

Ex Portato will not be mantained in Gentoo and Sabayon,but you may mantain the old Portato,if you use it! In my system, i mantained gnome2, since i like gnome2!

To see te TRUE orphaned packages, try "equo query orphans", but the removal or orphaned packages in sabayon and in gentoo systems may be a dangerous issue. Gentoo's portage has the option, but "said" that the option is dangerous...

ex. if you have compiz, compiz works, but it works better with the "sexy-python" package... If you installed "sexy-python", you compiz works better.
Then further, you may install other package, that also uses "sexy-python", if you remove "sexy-python"( because you removed compiz) this second package installed, may not further works, because the second package installed needed sexy-python and no more found it! Cross-linked dependency...

[sinayion]

I think there is a slight confusion on the definition of orphan packages here. The packages that are shown after an "equo upgrade" are ones no longer maintained on the servers. When I say orphan packages, I mean packages that were pulled as dependencies but are no longer required on the system.

[ph03]

So is there some easy way to remove "orphaned" packages. E.g. I installed kde4-meta and now removed it again but I also want all packages that were pulled in as an dependency of kde4-meta also to be reomved somehow as they are defenetly not required by other packages that are installed. How can I do this?

[cl00t]

If you uninstall packages as follows it will remove deps & config files for those packages.

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# equo remove packagename --ask --configfiles


You could also try:

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# equo remove packagename --ask --configfiles --deep


But be careful what dependencies are pulled in.

Do this afterwards:

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# equo deptest && equo libtest


[Thev00d00]

If you are using Equo it will warn you if you have orphans and offer to remove them.

It also removes unused reverse dependencies when uninstalling an application.

Basically there should be no orphans.

[ph03]

Nice thanks! I was using sulfur to remove that package and it only warned me that there are orphaned packages and offered no option to remove them also..

[yminus]

If you are using Equo it will warn you if you have orphans and offer to remove them.

It also removes unused reverse dependencies when uninstalling an application.

Basically there should be no orphans.

This cannot be true. I just installed thunar on a fresh system which pulled in >30 dependencies.

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equo install thunar

Then I removed thunar:

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equo remove thunar

But only thunar has been removed.

To see te TRUE orphaned packages, try "equo query orphans", but the removal or orphaned packages in sabayon and in gentoo systems may be a dangerous issue. Gentoo's portage has the option, but "said" that the option is dangerous...

I am using Gentoo since 2008 and I had never problems with removal of uneeded dependencies or "orphans" as you call them. In Gentoo to remove uneeded dependencies:

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emerge -avc

It will check if there is really no package that has been installed by the user or is part of the system depends on a package prior to remove it. To be on the safe side you can check for reverse dependencies afterwards:

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revdep-rebuild -- -av

This will (re)install every packages with unmet or dated dependencies or pull in missing dependencies if needed.