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[batvink]

There, i've done it.
The kids are on CrunchBang now., and they like it..
but i'm familiar with the problem., every now and then there's a distribution that's simply not installable., no matter
what you try.
as if the hardware just doesn't work together.
and indeed, virtually it installs and run flawlesly, but on the HDD.......
i had it with Sabayon 3.5 couldn't get it installed. bought another computer,(not because of sabayon., i wanted a new one anyway) and sab. just works fine.
i never knew why my old pc wouldn't install sabayon.
I also have an old PPC G5 with 1gig of RAM. running Leopard. My oldest Daughter has it in her bedroom for homework, but she finds it too slow. So although she has her own Pc, she's still asking; can i use yours?
So i can see you try a lot of different stuff. trying to be a all-round linux/bsd user.
Well, i hope it will work out for you this time with CrunchBang.

[jk121960]

Here's the funny part I got it down and realized I had been thinking about ArchBang not CrunchBang, it installed fine, it is very quick to be sure but Debian is fast. My main Debian install I have overloaded with WM's and software and it is still fast. and my CPU is stone age (Core 2 quad) I am going to upgrade but going to have to wait till after the New Years. Good board, I have been abusing it for a lot of years and it is starting to show, sound chip went, one of my Video card slots went, I'm waiting for the next shoe to drop. I to actually had a problem originally with Sabayon also but I just kept it in view and tried the next version, right now I have every flavor of Sabayon currently installed, even awesome -- which I would like to thank them for, it opened my eyes to another good Window manager. I would like to comment that I am enjoying the minimalist beauty of CrunchBang and OpenBox, yet another deceptively brilliant WM. I think when I install these and they are not configured, I don't see the brilliance in the design. But when you get one that someone has put some time into, you get it and you start configuring it your self. I am penning this at the moment in CB, I spent the day fiddling with it (some people bowl). Well maybe Santa is going to drop another GIG into leopard this Christmas for your daughters PC? (c'mon dad).

[batvink]

abusing it? LMAO.
yes, awesome WM is exactly what the name says.
all those DE's and WM's makes me hard to choose from, sometimes., so i often install them (almost) all.
glad it did worked out for you., you won't regret.. but the default layout of openbox is not very charming, so indeed you need to do some configuring. I've been configuring it myself a little, and so far i got this:
http://pastebin.sabayon.org/pasties/store/7748/Schermafdruk%20-%2005-12-11%20-%2009:32:06.png
it's not ready yet, but it's a start. Well, that Leopard .."thing" runs DDR1, which i don't have anymore., don't even know if it's still for sale. But if i can make her happy with one more Gig. i'll ride to the north-pole, if i have to.. Shake hands with Santa himself, and maybe we can make a deal.

[jk121960]

Abusing...well yea. I sometimes boot and configure a half dozen OS's on a weekend, like I did when I loaded the new Sabayon 7, as far as the RAM if by DDR1 you mean just DDR http://www.pricewatch.com/system_memory/ this place has it. I am actually on DDR2 and that's why I have to upgrade, you can't get big enough chips. My board will hold 32GIG but 8GIG chips out there are only the server variety. So I have to move to DDR3 to bring up my ram, but that means a new board, proc etc. The DE looks great, by the way and your way ahead of me, I hadn't even got to conky, I didn't know you could color the sections, very cool. When I finish with it I will drop you a png.

--jerry

[batvink]

Yup. just DDR. so it's still for sale.
My AMD dualCore 6000+ X64 with 4G. DDR2 is pretty old, but still very fast, so i'm not in a hurry to buy new stuff.
it's a simple AsusTek motherboard, but It still has an excellent performance.
The Conky i used, is the default one that comes with Crunch. I just added my own stuff and personalized it a little.
You can even make it a full-screen conky., i had one with Sab, and even have icons on the Desktop, thanks to KDE.
http://pastebin.sabayon.org/pasties/store/6819/schermafdruk1.png
I'll show you my .conkyrc ; that gives you a pretty good idea of how colors are defined.
you can either call them by name, or define them as hexadecimals. i used both.

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# conky configuration
#
# The list of variables has been removed from this file in favour
# of keeping the documentation more maintainable.
# Check http://conky.sf.net for an up-to-date-list.
#
# For ideas about how to modify conky, please see:
# http://crunchbanglinux.org/forums/topic/59/my-conky-config/
#
# For help with conky, please see:
# http://crunchbanglinux.org/forums/topic/2047/conky-help/
#
# Enjoy! :)
##############################################
# Settings
##############################################
background yes
use_xft yes
xftfont Liberation Sans:size=9
xftalpha 1
update_interval 1.0
total_run_times 0
own_window yes
own_window_transparent yes
##############################################
# Compositing tips:
# Conky can play strangely when used with
# different compositors. I have found the
# following to work well, but your mileage
# may vary. Comment/uncomment to suit.
##############################################
## no compositor
own_window yes
own_window_transparent yes
own_window_argb_visual yes
own_window_type normal
own_window_class conky-semi
own_window_hints undecorated,below,sticky,skip_taskbar,skip_pager

## xcompmgr
#own_window_type override
#own_window_argb_visual yes

## cairo-compmgr
#own_window_type desktop
#own_window_argb_visual yes
##############################################
own_window_hints undecorated,below,sticky,skip_taskbar,skip_pager
double_buffer yes
#minimum_size 200 200
maximum_width 240
draw_shades no
draw_outline no
draw_borders no
draw_graph_borders no
default_color A2AEC6
default_shade_color 000000
default_outline_color 828282
alignment top_right
gap_x 12
gap_y 56
no_buffers yes
uppercase no
cpu_avg_samples 2
override_utf8_locale no
# custom colors #######################################################
color0 FFFFFF
color1 F5F5F5
color2 A2AEC6
color3 696969
color4 D3D3D3
color5 6495ED
color6 87CEFA
color7 5F9EA0
color8 BBBBBB
color9 262729
##############################################
#  Output
##############################################
TEXT
$color0 ${time week%W,  %A -  %d-%m-%y %k:%M:%S}u
$color0${hr}
$color0 Host:$alignr$nodename
$color0 Uptime:$alignr$uptime
$color0 Kernel:$alignr$kernel

${color orange}RAM:$alignr$mem/$memmax $memperc%
${color orange}Load:${color orange} ${membar 6,220}

${color indigo}Swap usage:$alignr$swap/$swapmax
${color indigo}Load: ${color indigo}${swapbar 6,220}

${color yellow}CPU 1 usage:$alignr${cpu cpu0}%
${color yellow}Temperature:$alignr${hwmon temp 2}*C
${color yellow}Load:$alignr${cpubar cpu1 6,220} $color4${cpu cpu1}$color2 %
${color green}CPU 2 usage:$alignr${cpu cpu1}%
${color green}Temperature:$alignr${hwmon temp 1}*C
${color green}Load:$alignr${cpubar cpu2 6,220} $color4${cpu cpu2}$color2 %

$color8 /$color8 GPU:   NVidia -Geforce 7300 GT
$color2 Temperature :$color4 ${execi 60 nvidia-settings -query GPUCoreTemp | perl -ne 'print $1 if /GPUCoreTemp.*?: (\d+)./;'} *C

$color0 IP internal: $color1${addr eth0}
$color0 IP external: $color1${execi 3600 wget -q -O - checkip.dyndns.org | sed -e 's/[^[:digit:]|.]//g'}
$color0 Down : $color5 ${downspeed eth0}$color3 kb/s
$color4 ${downspeedgraph eth0 15,250 262729 87CEFA}
$color0 Up : $color5 ${upspeed eth0}$color3 kb/s
$color4 ${upspeedgraph eth0 15,250 262729 87CEFA}

$color8 /$color3 Volumes$color8 /$color3   %used: -   free:
$color3 -root :$color5             ${fs_used_perc /}%         -   ${fs_free /}
$color9 ${fs_bar 6,320 /}
$color3 -home :$color5         ${fs_used_perc /home}%       -  ${fs_free /home}
$color9 ${fs_bar 6,320 /home}

$color0 /$color0 Activity$color0 /
$color0 Read/Write: ${color yellow}$diskio
$color0 Process:${color yellow}$running_processes$color0 / ${color yellow}$processes
----------------------
${color blue}${top name 1}$alignr$color0 ${top cpu 1}%
$color2 ${top name 2}$alignr$color0 ${top cpu 2}%
$color2 ${top name 3}$alignr$color0 ${top cpu 3}%
$color2 ${top name 4}$alignr$color0 ${top cpu 4}%
$color2 ${top name 5}$alignr$color0 ${top cpu 5}%
${diskiograph 15,180 262729 87CEFA}


--patrick

[jk121960]

Dude that is very sharp great job, so you were able to break up the parts into different areas of the desktop.. very cool. Yea my board is also DDR2 and it is pretty quick but like I said it's starting to show ware, I also use VM's alot, some of my clients are MS SharePoint, that and win2003 server or worse 2008 suck up the ram like a drunken sailor. It's funny my debian loaded with amazing graphics ( I just got nvidia 290 in last night ) uses like 800MGs of ram and just Win2003 with sharepoint runs slow on 4gigs if I run win2008 with SP2010 it's dieing on 8gigs. So that is also the reason I need to upgrade the board I need DDR3 so I can take it up to about 24 gigs so I can run something else along with the VM or possibly 2 VM's. I ran into an nvidia install script that is great checks everything for dependencies, blacklisting everything and it installed 290. Here is the forum where I found it and the 1 line command that installs it, the article states you can start in the GUI, but not so drop down to tty, kill X and run the command, it's a great script takes care of everything. http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.p ... 71&start=0
cd /usr/local/bin && wget -O sgfxi smxi.org/sgfxi && chmod +x sgfxi && sgfxi

So people that think Debian does not cut it in graphics, haven't checked out KDE with latest drivers, the quality on compiz is sick. Actually comparable to Sabayon and Arch wich admittedly are pretty awesome in that dept. I prefer gnome to KDE but G3 is frightening in it's implications along with it's disfunctional cousin Unity. I am have been trying everything and weaning my self off anything from Gnome which has been difficult but KDE once you mod the menu and squeeze the task bars does have some great apps. Maybe mix and match, who knows?

later

--jerry

[batvink]

Indeed a great job, but actually the credits goes to someone else., I just happen to found the script and, once again adjusted to suite my needs. Yeah, Debian may be old, and dead stable, but for sure is fast and good with graphics.
Which reminds me of Back|Track-5r1 X64: Debian based, but their KDE version runs four times faster than any other KDE., no matter which Distro you choose. I really have no clue how they're doing that. And Windows really sucks...
Memory, i mean. of course.
Handy script, though. Didn't knew about it's existence. Makes us more and more lazy. Ehm, i mean easy to install.
Yesterday i tryed Ultimate Edition3. I thought it would be interesting, 'cause this time they're based it on Mint.
Man, you wouldn't believe how fast.... i removed it from my drive. Guess UE is not my thing.
Gnome3 looks nice, but it feels like i miss something. There are still (New)Distros that uses Gnome2 instead of 3.; Debian, a few BSD's....

[edit]
a few years ago i actually did mixed KDE and gnome. I did that with a two monitors setup.
The right monitor was my main Desktop, and run KDE., on the left monitor i run Gnome-panel and avant-window-navigator.

[jk121960]

Cool, I will have to check that Backtrack out, sounds like something my DOD security buddy probably knows something about. Yea thanks for conky script, gave me some material to play with. UE haven't tried it with the new mint, I tried the new mint ( I'm a fan) though and tried as they might, they were not able to tame G3, the desktop has caused mint to lose it's visual edge and the mint menu which was like a cool version of the KDE Kickoff menu (i'm not a fan. Kickoff I mean) that worked, I actually loaded it on my debian gnome next to the normal gnome menu's. Gnome 3 and Unity ehh? I don't see a loss of functionality as an upgrade, no matter how big you make the icons , and those never ending pallets that they have that span the whole desk. I think they would have been better off offering both cause obviously they are looking to get the laptop and touch pad people. That's fine, no problem but there are other types of people in their market that have been there a long time and depended on the old gnome for it's efficiency and brevity and they have now alienated that crowd and driven them to ther destops. Personally I am weaning myself off aything gnome, because sooner or later the dependencies will cause it to interfere with the desktop I am using. For instance, I don't like Emerald and on the Sabayan KDE unless I use Emerald I have to use the gtk window decorator for compiz. It looks like sh**t, I have KDE on Debian but gnome 2 decorator and it's great, I have arch with the KDE decorator which is also cool although you dont have drop shadows (not good ones), you have this glow thing but still OK looking. I am unclear why Sabayan doesn't have the KDE decorator for gnome, it's in the Gentoo packages. But the gtk from gnome 3, has one look and your stuck with it. OK enough wining, glad there are so many choices, I might get annoyed;). Funny on the UE and I am going to download backtrack and check it out thanks for that.

--jerry

[batvink]

Back|track is a very nice and sexy OS, i allways carry it with me on a stick, mostly to help Windows users. it's the swiss army knife for Network and security professionals.
nice intro video: http://www.backtrack-linux.org/

I don't like kickoff either.
first thing i allways do when installing KDE, is put back the classic menu style.
I am back on Sabayon 7 now. Did a fresh install with CoreCDX, and installed KDE (light version).
While optimizing Sab. i'm busy taking the steps to install Gentoo-11.2 on another partition.
i found a guy (well, i think he is), who is really picking at Debian. He constantly takes Debian down to the ground and discribes Gentoo as a superiour OS.
http://funroll-loops.info/
me, i like computing in general., whether it's Sabayon, Debian, Gentoo, Arch or even Windows7.
i have them all, and they all have their own beauty. I can make them all work together too.
For example, i've installed Thunderbird on a server partition in Windows 7. Copy the prefs.js over, to all other distros, with Thunderbird installed and modified the prefs.js, pointing to Windows. So no matter which OS i'm booting., i allways have my updated mailbox, synchronized on all Oses. (thanks to Fitzcarraldo's blog).
and yes, i am also glad there are so many choices.
Guess i'm addicted to computers...

[jk121960]

thanks I'll check out the video and install BackTrack soon, I am the same about computers, they do all have their own good points and bad points. I just got tired of windows in the respect that much like gnome 3 choices are being taken away instead of added. WinXP has more theme control then Win7? huh? Theming is a big deal for me, I am in front of this screen 12-14 hours a day (I work from home). The Debian guy though, let's face it, he is comparing apples to oranges, Debian is stability and power in a box at the expense of not the latest packages but great stability and package manager and still one of the largest repository selections available not to mention every freaking platform on the planet, Gentoo is great if you have the time and know a lot more then the average even IT person. Linux IT people as a norm are not compiling there own kernels. Debian -- just plug it in. Now if you have the time Gentoo is awesome, you couldn't ask for more choice or freedom. Then in the middle of the road is like Arch, also awesome it it's own right. One other thing I like about Gentoo is I can install the complete OS with out even booting out of my current system that I am in. Arch I have a base image built all the way to nvidia and xorg, I copy that to a partition and chroot in and do the rest of the install from my main OS, I have scripts that I store for like KDE. XFCE etc. I can punch out a handful of variations all in the same day. That's interesting about the Thunderbird thing, very cool, I will have to look at that.

Later

--jerry