E17 vs KDE [Solved]

[ReemZ]

Hey guys, as some of you might've already read I'm experiencing huge problems with Amarok atm, and Joost told me support for KDE3.5 will be dropped, and I *really* don't like the idea of having to "get used to" KDE4, or Amarok 2.

One tip I got was: E17.

I'm thinking of two possibilities right now: a clean install from dvd, WITHOUT any further updating (cos that seems to break most of my shit), or completely abandoning KDE for Enlightenment...or maybe even both...

Simple question: any of you got any experience with Enlightenment and could tell me what apps you guys use to play music and/or films? In other words, does E ship with an app of the same quality as good old Amarok 1.4, do they have a decent replacement for Kaffeine, what PIM (now: Kontact) would I be using, that sort of things?

[wolfden]

you can use any music player with enlightenment, even amarok if you wanted too

[ReemZ]

you can use any music player with enlightenment, even amarok if you wanted too

Provided it would work, yes, which would immediately take away any reason to abandon KDE3
Or is there a chance Amarok *would* work in Enlightenment, but *not* in KDE? Dunno, just asking...

[wolfden]

amarok should work in any environment as it will pull the dependencies to make it work.

[ReemZ]

Normally, yes, but not here...I've tried -ty things to get it back to work, no luck.
Dunno if you've read this bugreport yet?
(Was gonna paste the forum thread first, but then realized that's in Dutch...)

[ReemZ]

Hmm...forget this...I've done some more reading on E17...waaaaaaaaaay too unstable at this point yet, which is exactly what I don't need right now

[Fitzcarraldo]

Why don't you download a LiveCD for a distro that uses E17 as the default desktop, and actually try it out without affecting anything on your HDD? Check out the Elive distro LiveCD (version 1.9.28 of Elive was released on 1 June), which you can download from here (and you can watch a demo video on that page too).

N.B. To download the stable version of Elive the developer requests a donation, so look for the link on the download page to download the unstable version. Unstable in this context means the testing version, ie the arch is ~x86 instead of x86, so it's analogous to SL.

If it works well for you -- and it does for me -- then you could consider installing it in SL using the method given in the blog article E17 now available in Entropy.

[ReemZ]

Why don't you download a LiveCD for a distro that uses E17 as the default desktop, and actually try it out without affecting anything on your HDD? Check out the Elive distro LiveCD (version 1.9.28 of Elive was released on 1 June), which you can download from here (and you can watch a demo video on that page too).

N.B. To download the stable version of Elive the developer requests a donation, so look for the link on the download page to download the unstable version. Unstable in this context means the testing version, ie the arch is ~x86 instead of x86, so it's analogous to SL.

If it works well for you -- and it does for me -- then you could consider installing it in SL using the method given in the blog article E17 now available in Entropy.

Music in that vid is great! (I really luv DnB hehe)
Vid itself is shite though, typical "look what we can do!" kinda demo, doesn't give me any idea of what it really looks like or what one can do with it.
Plus, I'm *not* gonna install anything of which even the makers themselves say it's still experimental!
And...I think I saw something on that site about...no 3D acceleration? No cube and such??

Anyway, it may be a lot of fun for you guys to mess around with it, with all your expertise and an average of 15 computers per person, but I have only *one* pc which really needs to work, and not enough skills or knowledge to repair things, not even in SL yet, let alone a completely unknown distro! Plus, it's Debian based, which tells me I'm gonna be at it for weeks trying to get a picture and some sound, which I'm not skilled enough to do yet.

Nah, sorry for the trouble lads, I'm sticking to KDE. 3.5, that is.
It's gonna be a clean install (no, NOT SL4.2 with KDE4, but the dvd I still have here, SL4 from just after Christmas), I will NOT update the installer, and I will NOT update the system anymore.
At least that way it'll all still work, at least, the MOST important application for me: Amarok 1.4.
(Yes, in my book, without music, life is completely useless.)

I'll just have to wait with fucking around until I've got a 2nd pc to play with...

Thanks anyway guys!

[albfneto]

in fact, amarok 2.2 is not so stable as 1.4, frequentely it fails, also with me...
but i imagine that amarok 1.4 runs in kde 4, if KDE 2 is not present.
you may use KDE4, and if you delete amarok 2, if you further dowgrade to amarok 1.4, the Entropy installer will be install only the parts of the kDE 3 that AMarok 1.4 needs....

[wolfden]

edited title to [Solved] as per viewtopic.php?f=57&t=1730

you know better than that and watch the language on the forum