Sabayon Linux x86/x86-64 3.5.1 Stable Release

[dr_cerebro]

I can't download those files via torrent.

It displays a message: Rejected by tracker. Invalid torrent pass.

[dr_cerebro]

I can't download those files via torrent.

It displays a message: Rejected by tracker. Invalid torrent pass.

But I'm downloading the torrent via linuxtracker

[marceloramone]

This release is simply impossible to install on machine without Internet connection, due to the anaconda installer bug mentioned in the release notes in this thread.

Also, I tried with text installer but fails again and again when is formating the disc.

I do not understand a thing, if the sabayon developers noticed that there is bug on the installer, why didn't released a new iso for 3.5.1 with this bug fixed???

[wolfden]

cause it doesn't effect everyone, basically the fix is for those that attempt upgrade option in the installer - so if u are doing a straight install, you will not be bothered. Majority of people have internet also so it's easily fixable. It was discovered way after release so it's not like it was discovered the next day after release or released knowing it was there.

[marceloramone]

OK in others words you are telling me that the bug i'm reporting is OTHER?

Because I'm trying to do a fresh installation, not upgrade installer, and is impossible to install.

And you told me

so if u are doing a straight install, you will not be bothered.

I will paste here a screenshot with the bug tomorrow.

sadly, I have no idea how to install this system.

[marceloramone]

Majority of people have internet

Recent polls indicate that in Latin America, 22% of people have Internet access, is that 78% do not.

It should not be 100% necessary to have to take the Internet to fix a bug in the installer.

[wolfden]

You need the internet to get the iso in the first place, so how is this a problem? If you don't have internet, you don't have the iso. If you get the iso from a friend or some other means than you are stuck as you are unable to do anything else with it. If we releases another iso file, you still need the internet to get it. If your limited, your limited, nothing more one can do. There is so many issues with releases it's unbelievable and it's impossible to satisfy everyone. Some are limited to caps and if they go over, they get charged big time, so we make them redownload the iso? Some people don't have dvd burners, so we shouldn't release dvds cause of that? Some want the cd release first before the dvd release, but history has always been the dvd release is very popular as has always been the priority, see the problems here? If you are limited, you are limited. Sabayon can only do so much with the resources at hand and the rest is up to you.

If you are doing a straight install than the bug will not bother you as I stated. So all the above of who has internet and who doesn't is irrelevant. You have something else going on than. Are you trying any of the cheat codes as per our wiki talks about? Have you verified the md5sum of your iso? Have you burnt the disk as slow as possible and verified your burn? It sounds like you need to be starting your own topic in the Installation forum and giving as much possible information as possible. 3.5.1 has been installed over and over and is working fine for many, but it's not 100% smooth for everyone. There is issues as there always is - bad burn, bad hardware, bad media, problematic hardware, known issues, unseen bugs and user error are just some of the factors. So please make a new topic in the Installation forum and give Hardware information along with if you have verified iso and disk and what cheat codes you have tried and the error. Than maybe someone can give ya a helping hand to get it installed

[marceloramone]

The problem is not that I have or not have internet. The problem is not that I am limited or not. I just say that it is inappropriate to have to connect to the Internet to solve a problem with the installer.

I got the bug, which will not let me install, I thought it was the same error as discussed in the release announcement at the beginning of this thread, but you clarified me that this bug only affects when you try to do an update installer, I have another bug, another problem, as you mentioned.

PS: According to your reasoning, Sabayon Linux is completely obsolete without internet ...

I disagree ...

I approached Sabayon because the DVD brings a tremendous amount of software, especially for multimedia, in other systems like ubuntu, fedora, suse, and many others, the Internet is required to download additional software, for that reason I do not agree, because I can not hear a single mp3 or watching a simple divx, but Sabayon already have installed this software.

But, I ask, am I the one that is limited or is GNU / Linux? The problem is GNU / Linux, which requires having the Internet, not the users.

Let me tell you a thing my friend, in the third world is common that many people do not have Internet.

Only now in recent months is becoming more affordable and acceptable speeds.

But I live in a poor world, not in a rich world like yours ...

It is not correct to be dependent on the Internet for use free software.

It is not a users limitation, is a GNU / Linux limitation.

[wolfden]

I understand what you are saying, but we have used the update installer thing often as bugs do creep up after a release. That is why when you load up Sabayon for the first time, you see the update installer icon. This is something that can't be helped and for convenience of our users, they can simply hit update installer instead of going thru an entire new download. This is a benefit to people that are limited with internet. It's also a benefit on our limited servers so they are not constantly overloaded.

Sabayon is not obsolete without internet - use it as is and simple download a new iso as they come out. One doesn't have to do updates or install additional software if they don't want to. They are gonna have issues if they need additional software to support their hardware, such as a drivers or simply changing the theme if they don't like the default one. Nobody said it was obsolete if you didn't have hardware, but be prepared to struggle if it's not 100% to what you need/want.

GNU Linux is what it is. A distro doesn't have standardization as to what is on it or not. A distro works as vast as possible and filling the needs of the majority. Take a look at all the spin offs of Ubuntu and Debian - these spin offs are due to people customizing it to their needs. They don't like default so they create and add what they want. As far as releasing free software, it's the only way some people have to get their software out to others. They also depend on free hosting by others as they can't afford to setup a place to handle the pressure. Source Forge is a perfect example for developers to publish their work to so others can benefit. No matter what part of the world you are in, you have people that are poor and can take advantage of using those sites. Sabayon depends on donations as it is costing money to host the web site, provide downloads, and even develop the software. Fabio can't sit and code 24/7 as he needs to work to eat also. The same for all the devs - they donate their time outside of their life. So it's amazing and a blessing to be able to even get the "free software" by any means at all. We can't be ubuntu and ship millions of discs out, we don't have that sort of backing. I don't know any distro that will ship you updates or bug fixes via mail. People should be supporting their distro they use, it's not about "free" it's about keeping it going. No funds = no more. You got to look at the big picture as frustrating as it is for some, but again, it's not Sabayon's fault, it's the reality of life.

Sabayon tries to make a release as flawless as possible, but it never happens that a perfect release comes out, so we need to address it and pending on the situation will determine how the fix is applied. Recreating a distro for 2 lines of code is time consuming and the focus is now to get Sabayon 4 out as soon as possible. This is the first time we have ever released a maintenance release on the same version as a benefit for the people to save them hours of updates. You can always grab 3.5 and try that since you won't be doing updates. I'm not sure if the update bug is present in that one or not, but regardless still, the issue is not your problem. You've been advised what to do in my prior post and hopefully it's easily solvable so you can enjoy your Sabayon.

Go to Installation part of forum and make a new topic
Post hardware info
md5sum check, burn verified?
cheatcode used
errors - use the Alt F1 combination to see where or what things are getting stuck

[totedati]

can't be a decent solution to simply replace that oficial iso image with this annoying bug with a new and fresh iso without this bug? this way people who downloaded already the old buggy iso but for some reason can't use it simply will need to download again this fresh and new official iso ... people who managed to install sabayon linux using the old iso, jumping over this bug, will simply use that old iso without any need to download again the new iso ... and peoples who begin only now to download that iso is downloading the new iso, without this bug ... all of us can be more happy not so?

as you can see for some of us is very important access to an oficial and unbugy, as possible, dvd iso ... internet connections is not so pervasive as some of us dream ... and hope ... for many fast and unlimited, 24/24 hours internet connections is still a dream ...

;-D