Could font configuration be provided "out of the box" ?

[mélodie]

Hi,

Some time ago at the chan someone told me to use the wiki Archlinux for the font configuration.

I have looked at the sabayon wiki in case, didn't find so I went to see the Archlinux wiki, at this page:

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Font_Configuration

Seen this part:

Check for Xorg's known font paths by reviewing its log:

$ grep /fonts /var/log/Xorg.0.log

I invoked the command and got:

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$ grep /fonts /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[  4094.711] (WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/TTF/" does not exist.
[  4094.711] (WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/OTF/" does not exist.
[  4094.711] (WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/Type1/" does not exist.
[  4094.711] (WW) `fonts.dir' not found (or not valid) in "/usr/share/fonts/100dpi/".
[  4094.711]    (Run 'mkfontdir' on "/usr/share/fonts/100dpi/").
[  4094.711] (WW) `fonts.dir' not found (or not valid) in "/usr/share/fonts/75dpi/".
[  4094.711]    (Run 'mkfontdir' on "/usr/share/fonts/75dpi/").
   /usr/share/fonts/misc/
$



I didn't start configuring the fonts in my system : a Gnome with Openbox installed on top of it. I wanted to start talking about this issue here first.

What do you think ? Should I report it as a bug, after I will have reconfigured the fonts, or is it possible to talk about this here and have information about how it could be configured prior to publishing, in future versions ? If it could be possible that would be an agreeable improvement.

Thanks,
Mélodie

[sabayonino]

looking for fonts via sulfur/rigo/equo and install them.


Example :

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# equo search media-fonts

and install what you want.

no need a bug report.

eselect fontconfig provide to configure your system fonts.

see eselect fontconfig whitout options to see the help command

[mélodie]

Hi,
I thank you, I have added Ubuntu font family (will that help me ? I will say). I have looked at eselect fontconfig and got this list:

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comete 75dpi # eselect fontconfig list
Available fontconfig .conf files (* is enabled):
  [1]   10-autohint.conf *
  [2]   10-no-sub-pixel.conf
  [3]   10-sub-pixel-bgr.conf
  [4]   10-sub-pixel-rgb.conf *
  [5]   10-sub-pixel-vbgr.conf
  [6]   10-sub-pixel-vrgb.conf
  [7]   10-unhinted.conf
  [8]   20-fix-globaladvance.conf *
  [9]   20-unhint-small-dejavu-sans.conf *
  [10]  20-unhint-small-dejavu-sans-mono.conf *
  [11]  20-unhint-small-dejavu-serif.conf *
  [12]  20-unhint-small-vera.conf *
  [13]  25-ttf-arphic-ukai-render.conf
  [14]  25-ttf-arphic-uming-bitmaps.conf
  [15]  25-ttf-arphic-uming-render.conf
  [16]  25-unhint-nonlatin.conf
  [17]  30-metric-aliases.conf *
  [18]  30-urw-aliases.conf *
  [19]  31-cantarell.conf *
  [20]  35-ttf-arphic-ukai-aliases.conf
  [21]  35-ttf-arphic-uming-aliases.conf
  [22]  40-nonlatin.conf *
  [23]  41-ttf-arphic-ukai.conf
  [24]  41-ttf-arphic-uming.conf
  [25]  45-latin.conf *
  [26]  49-sansserif.conf *
  [27]  50-user.conf *
  [28]  51-local.conf *
  [29]  57-dejavu-sans.conf *
  [30]  57-dejavu-sans-mono.conf *
  [31]  57-dejavu-serif.conf *
  [32]  60-latin.conf *
  [33]  60-liberation.conf
  [34]  64-ttf-arphic-uming.conf
  [35]  65-fonts-persian.conf *
  [36]  65-khmer.conf
  [37]  65-nonlatin.conf *
  [38]  66-lohit-assamese.conf
  [39]  66-lohit-bengali.conf
  [40]  66-lohit-gujarati.conf
  [41]  66-lohit-hindi.conf
  [42]  66-lohit-kannada.conf
  [43]  66-lohit-kashmiri@devanagari.conf
  [44]  66-lohit-konkani.conf
  [45]  66-lohit-maithili.conf
  [46]  66-lohit-marathi.conf
  [47]  66-lohit-oriya.conf
  [48]  66-lohit-punjabi.conf
  [49]  66-lohit-sindhi@devanagari.conf
  [50]  66-lohit-tamil.conf
  [51]  66-lohit-telugu.conf
  [52]  67-lohit-malayalam.conf
  [53]  67-lohit-nepali.conf
  [54]  69-unifont.conf *
  [55]  70-no-bitmaps.conf
  [56]  70-yes-bitmaps.conf
  [57]  75-ttf-arphic-ukai-select.conf
  [58]  80-delicious.conf *
  [59]  90-synthetic.conf *
  [60]  90-ttf-arphic-ukai-embolden.conf
  [61]  90-ttf-arphic-uming-embolden.conf
comete 75dpi #

It seems to me that the ones enabled are ok ? Are there fonts missing, if so which ones would you advise me to add ?

I think I will install 100dpi fonts additionnally...

at same time I would like to know why Xorg complains that some directories are missing, as well as a file in the subdirectory 75dpi ?

Here is what I have:

comete packages # ls -l /usr/share/fonts/
total 108
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 15 févr. 02:47 100dpi
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 15 févr. 02:47 75dpi
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 15 févr. 02:47 arphicfonts
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 15 févr. 02:47 baekmuk-fonts
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 4 avril 13:23 cantarell
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 15 févr. 02:47 corefonts
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 1 juil. 2011 cronyx
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 15 févr. 02:47 cyrillic
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 15 févr. 02:47 default
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 15 févr. 02:47 dejavu
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 15 févr. 02:47 encodings
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 690 3 août 2006 fonts.cache-1
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2 12 août 2006 fonts.dir
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 15 févr. 02:47 indic
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 4 avril 13:18 liberation-fonts
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 4 avril 13:17 libertine-ttf
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 15 févr. 02:47 lklug
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 20480 15 févr. 02:47 misc
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 15 févr. 02:47 sazanami
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 15 févr. 02:47 ttf-bitstream-vera
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 22 avril 15:45 ubuntu-font-family
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 15 févr. 02:47 unifont
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 15 févr. 02:47 urw-fonts
comete packages # cd /usr/share/fonts/75dpi/
comete 75dpi # ls -l
total 4
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3066 18 nov. 2010 fonts.alias
comete 75dpi #

And as the distribution advertise aiming to provide a great out of the box distro, I would still like to know if the font configuration could be available out of the box ?

(or at least with very little left to tweak, such as changing RGB to BGR, selecting light hinting or medium of full, the font type and size... )

[oboedad55]

Melodie, I found this web page; http://lovingthepenguin.blogspot.com/20 ... refox.html
It fixed my ugly fonts in Firefox!

[ratcheer]

Melodie, I found this web page; http://lovingthepenguin.blogspot.com/20 ... refox.html
It fixed my ugly fonts in Firefox!

Big +1. This fixed my fonts, too.

Question: Why does Sabayon choose such awful fonts as default?

Tim

[Bunkmil]

Question: Why does Sabayon choose such awful fonts as default?

Tim

Good question! Every time I installed Sabayon, I had to spend a lot of time configuring the font rendering.

Suggestion to an experienced Sabayon user: write a wiki page with a step-by-step how-to improve the font quality .

[mélodie]

Hi,

Several other distributions do provide the final product with fonts well configured. You need almost nothing to make it perfect for your sight, with the gui configuration tools. I believe Sabayon is now very much improved since a few years ago and could benefit of such a treatment in a next future version. Or do I mistake ?

[Jomiel]

Hi,
I don't think that the default font is that bad. I migrated from OpenSUSE KDE. And Sans was default there too.
Also there is an easy way to change the font in xfce. I don't know about the other DE though.

cheers
Jomiel

[mélodie]

Hi,
I don't think that the default font is that bad. I migrated from OpenSUSE KDE. And Sans was default there too.
Also there is an easy way to change the font in xfce. I don't know about the other DE though.

cheers
Jomiel

Hi,
It is not about a font type, but about the font directories which may have symlinks from here to there and such. If you have a look at your /var/log/Xorg.0.log and then look at a doc such as this one https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Font_Configuration , you might understand that several improvements could be done before creating the isos.

Archlinux being a distro provided as cli install iso, there is no conf done once installed so the wiki provides all information about how to set it up. Sabayon being a Live which can be installed, it might benefit of some additional beautifying. (At least I think it could, unless there is a tech detail I am not aware of regarding this point).

[Bunkmil]

Sabayon being a Live which can be installed, it might benefit of some additional beautifying. (At least I think it could, unless there is a tech detail I am not aware of regarding this point).

+1