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Postby xanthon » Mon Oct 09, 2006 3:58

Greetings, all.

I'm impressed with what I see so far but I want to mention four points which I believe are worth examining:

1. I was forced to add a new user. I wanted to defer that until I was able to specify the user id (500) because (obviously) I already have a distro installed and I wanted to have the same user id as my other distro - for ease of access to data files in a partition to be shared between distros.

Now I have a user account which has the wrong id (1000) and is no use to me. Removing it is an unnecessary chore.

2. At the end of the installation, there was a message indicating that there was no firewall. Somewhat strange for an installation that will require web access to complete. How I go about fixing this, I'm unsure. Because that meant the OS was not ready to use, I exited at that point and have to return to work things out properly.

3. I would like to have had the choice of implementing a static IP rather than DCHP. It would have been easier to set that up from the beginning rather than (now) having to mess about undoing one and instituting the other.

4. To many, this would be of no significance but I have come to rely on kjots as a means of storing the miscellany of notes I need on a large number of subjects; infinitely superior to having a huge number of text files. My notes include information on (re)configuring Sabayon. Kjots is part of kdeutils, so it would not be difficult to include it in the installation.
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Postby cvill64 » Mon Oct 09, 2006 5:53

1) I have no idea what you're talking about with the ability to use the same user...? just make the same user and then have the other parititons mounted, you cannot be logged into both systems simultaneously

2) We leave the choice up to the user

3/4 use bugzilla and choose enhancement in the severity and add those too

for 3, I think we're working on a way for that
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Postby xanthon » Mon Oct 09, 2006 6:27

Thanks for the response.

I've had this conflict previously when one distro used the uid 500 and the other used 1000. Permissions were set by the first distro and were inadequate for the second. I found that I avoided the conflict when the second distro used the same UID as the first.

Firewall is a choice? As I say, once I realised there was none, I exited. I will disconnect the computer from the LAN before logging in again and finding out what I need to do.

Bugzilla, the ultimate deterrent. Once I have the OS in good shape, I will visit it.
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Postby lxnay » Mon Oct 09, 2006 6:34

xanthon, we are not on Windows Crap.
An Operating System, without critical open ports, could not need a firewall. It's up to users to do that. Stop complaining about that silly thing. Thank you.
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Postby cvill64 » Mon Oct 09, 2006 7:05

lol, be patient ;P

@xanthon

Do a little reading before spouting off though, you need to be connected so you can emerge the necessary package, and like lxnay said, no critical ports are open, and this is linux land, you have a magically thing called a root password to help protect your system since you're running at a least privledged user level ;)

here's how for a firewall

# emerge firestarter && /usr/bin/firstarter

then configure and

# rc-update add firestarter default

simple ;)
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Postby xanthon » Mon Oct 09, 2006 7:13

Didn't realise I was spouting off.

So Linux almighty is immune to everything? Didn't realise that either.

Thanks for the code.
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Postby xanthon » Tue Oct 10, 2006 5:25

Sorry. My mistake. I missed that this is a developers' forum.

No wonder I upset people. :oops:
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Postby cvill64 » Tue Oct 10, 2006 9:14

lol, no no, we have a forum for just development

and linux is not immune to everthing, just a bit better prepared :D

its very easy so take your time and enjoy the learning :)
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Postby xanthon » Wed Oct 11, 2006 3:04

Right, thanks. My maths is also faulty. (2 + 2 = ?)

BTW, someone should tell this fellow over at Gentoo that no firewall is necessary:
One of the main reasons people switch to linux is "because it is more secure", however the truth is linux is only as secure as you make it. What I find amazing is the amount of people who neglect setting up a proper firewall, and without one your super secure linux box is just a big bullseye.


This is exactly the attitude that I've found since migrating to Linux, so the view expressed here was quite a surprise. As for me, I'm very much at the stage of being guided. If Gentoo has it wrong, we're all lost.
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Postby wolfden » Wed Oct 11, 2006 3:08

I don't setup up a firewall - my router has it built in and works very well
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