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by **compasspnt** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 2:43

Stewe1,

This can be frustrating. I just came to try Linux after being on Mac since their first OS in '84. Most recently (and still use everyday) OSX 10.3.9. I also have had, and run daily, a WinXP laptop for over a year, which I got only to learn what 90% of the world was doing (or more aptly, NOT doing) with their computers.

But Linux is so interesting, because you can set EVERYTHING up to be just the way you want it to be.

It is very frustrating, for sure, if you have never been used to typing commands, as in my case.

I am learning (slowly sometimes) though, and when you do get something right, it is satisfying.

Right now I am having trouble even downloading and then extracting/installing simple apps, because it doesn't "just do it" like OSX does. But the apps are mostly free, and there are so many!

Also having trouble getting wifi to work on this Compaq/BCM4318. Again, with Apple, it always "just did."

But Sabayon seems so cool and "forward thinking" that I am determined to make it all work, and then make that SL laptop the one I use and travel with. I have tried almost all of the distro's so far, and just replaced SuSE 10.1 with the SL.

Hopefully, with luck and maybe help) I will get this all going, and then be very proud to have learned so much more about the way computers really work.

BTW, for "right out of the box" Graphics, surely you would be better off with Mac than with Windows!

Good luck to you...try to make this SL work for you! Got GIMP?

Regards.

by **pxc** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 6:01

compasspnt wrote:... Mac just works...

This is definitely true, but the reason that Macs always just work is that Apple is a hardware vendor. They don't have to worry about drivers for mulitple pieces of hardware, because they control the hardware, and the software, and the integration. What makes Linux so versatile is that it can run on nearly anything. As a result, however, it can take a little elbow grease to get it going in certain situations.

Good luck!

by **linuxstruck** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 8:54

Stewe1,

Have some patience. I myself am a linux newbie. But i must say i'm having a wonderful time discovering the world of Linux/BSD. Sure, there may be some difficulties along they way but its a small price to pay for freedom.

Sabayon Linux has in many ways already exerted tremendous efforts to make things "just work" out of the box for people like us. My appreciation for this distro and its developers is great. If only i can transcend my appreciation and regard for this great OS to all the newbies out there.

I guess its just the attitude sometimes, that prevents us from discovering a whole new world of possibilities.

Take heart, spend some time to tinker with your box. Perhaps then you'll also be able to appreciate Sabayon Linux as an operating system.

Regards.

by **Sunnz** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 14:29

pxc wrote:
compasspnt wrote:... Mac just works...
but the reason that Macs always just work is that Apple is a hardware vendor. They don't have to worry about drivers for mulitple pieces of hardware, because they control the hardware, and the software, and the integration.

That's their biggest selling point, right? Making the perfect software that are designed for their own hardware... I personally think it is a beauty that it is not just what's been put together, but how they have integrated them smoothy.

by **pxc** » Tue Sep 19, 2006 0:22

Sunnz wrote:That's their biggest selling point, right? Making the perfect software that are designed for their own hardware... I personally think it is a beauty that it is not just what's been put together, but how they have integrated them smoothy.

Oh, I definitely agree. I was just trying to show that as far as drivers/hardware go, Macs aren't really comparable to Linux boxes, because there are hardly any Linux (desktop) hardware vendors. Quite honestly, the only reason I don't have a Mac is because I can't afford the hefty price tag, what being in HS and all that.

When Apple controls their hardware the way they do, they get to worry a whole lot less about hardware and a whole lot more about the actual OS, and the interface.

by **Sunnz** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 4:39

Yea, that's why I use Macintosh for laptops, because I don't know how to open the laptop and do stuff myself...

by **Dio** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 22:18

that also means when apple chooses to go with a crappy piece of hardware for whatever reason, you're stuck. Don't get me wrong, I love OS X, but I have some serious disagreements with apple's design practices. Personally, I love IBM Thinkpads...(before they got sold out to lenovo, although they're still one of the best laptops out there) It's almost like IBM designed the thinkpads with linux and unix users in mind...up until recently, they didn't even have windows keys, and they still come standard with a built-in 3rd button. Aside from using ATI graphics cards, they're pretty much the best of what's out there...

by **Sunnz** » Fri Sep 22, 2006 7:22

Dio wrote:that also means when apple chooses to go with a crappy piece of hardware for whatever reason, you're stuck.

That applies to any pre-build devices...

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