openmoko, free you phone ... iphone killer?

[SpawN]

Gphone .... i don't like it

[random guy]

has anyone seen any of these andriod phones? i would love something for $200 with wifi.

then when those apple geeks show off their iphnes i can show them my opensource phone.

[SpawN]

Iphone is....hmm good but look's like a normal phone...

[ioannidis007]

Yeah, I think these guys give you tools and a debug board to try and hack it so it fits your needs! Amazing! I wonder who would dare do this on an iPhone!

[totedati]

hah! the last moves in this giant battles:

Dalvik: how Google routed around Sun's IP-based licensing restrictions on Java ME

what i see here is a lot of gatekeepers ... maybe will the beginning of unlocking mobile phone hardware platform, maybe not ... google android is not a clean gpl v.2.0, not even apache ... what i see here is a careful first move from google but only that, no more ... and still no real phone running this wonderful android platform ... still only dreams ...

[random guy]

totedati you like to write poems eh?

stuff takes time to do, i mean you cant just build an os (even for a phone) and slap it on hardware from day 1. takes work. takes testing. especially if it is open source you want to give the community enough time to develop for it. plus handset makers can really only make the phone after a software stack is completed. its not like the makers are going to try and integrate each nightly build onto the phone each night. it is not exactly a computer.

i think all the google android stuff will fall into place with time. including the gpl thing.

[totedati]

well ... for me IS IT EXACTLY LIKE A COMPUTER .... with a CPU, a display, some RAM, some keyboard, a conectivity thing, you know that all that 3g stuf is olny like a antic modem with commands like ATblablabla not so? that 3g part is oly a modem! you dial to it like with the ancient dialup modems ... and all essential software stack is here, only that the UI thing still need some polishing because displays is soo tinny ...

so, for me is no other barriers, only NETWORK CARRYERS MONOPOLYES and HUNGRY SOFTWARE PROVIDERS OVERPRICES that keep this huge market closed ... like was computer market before PC ...

look at that DALVIK VM ... a smart move from google ... but why? only because google fear to be too much tied to javaME VM and mulled by lot of cash from that nice guy's from SUN ...

but soon all this strugle will be history ... such a huge market can not be keep closed too much time ... my prediction is that by 2008 or at least 2009 all monopolies will be a thing of the past in this market ...

[ioannidis007]

I saw a video about openmoko on youtube and I think it's not as good as I expected. It takes about 1:30 to boot. What do you think? I believe there will be more in the domain of portable linux so I won't hurry and buy it. I have found this list and maybe you should take a looK: http://www.linuxdevices.com/articles/AT9423084269.html

[Eden]

You have to remember its still in development, consumer release isn't expected till the end of the year I believe.

I haven't kept completely up to date on the latest news but last I heard the development version had some bad problems with battery life, i assume they have fixed that by now.

definitely not ready for daily use just yet. Cant wait though.

[ioannidis007]

It's sold out folks! That's too bad... I hope for a new release soon! Has anyone saw the CAD files that was released? It's on the site:
http://www.openmoko.com