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Re: Nixie tube artwork...

Postby Fitzcarraldo » Mon Nov 22, 2010 3:00

Thanks for all your hard work, alonsoty.

I like the font of the text on the vertical front; it looks like the style of writing on an old radio or phonograph, which I think was your intention. I also like the dark grey aluminium. Perhaps some reflected glow on the aluminium base in front of the tubes might enhance the image?

The image looks very nice, but I think two things detract from the gorgeous Nixie tubes: the large hen's foot logo behind them, and the dark front edge running horizontally across the screen. Actually, I think the hen's foot may be the biggest culprit. If you have time and are willing, could you kindly try the experiments listed below on the existing image?

1. Remove the hen's foot from the backdrop.

2. As per 1 above but, instead of having a dark edge running horizontally across the screen, have a single, curved edge between the horizontal base and the vertical front of the plinth. Try with a small radius and with a larger radius of curvature.

3. As per 1 above, but place a small debossed hen's foot logo below or behind the text.

4. As per 2 above, but place a small debossed hen's foot logo below or behind the text.

As for your question about what I imagined, I only had vague ideas but was thinking of something very roughly like the following Nixie clock (but with smaller tubes than in this photo, so as not to dominate the Desktop), with a dark background in order to be able see Desktop icons:



or a dark (or dull grey) background and a cherry wood plinth with shiny black anodised aluminium base similar to the following Nixie clock:



EDIT: Fixed link for second image.
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Re: Nixie tube artwork...

Postby alonsoty » Mon Nov 22, 2010 4:50

You're welcome ... it's fun for me.

The latter are exactly the valves from where I started!
I do not see all the photos from "Design Milk" but I think you mean these:
http://www.buzz-beast.com/2010/08/nixie ... -v400.html

I'll try to do some version by following your advice.
The aluminum plate with the valve shows the profile because it was really an attempt (failed) to simulate the glass!
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Re: Nixie tube artwork...

Postby alonsoty » Tue Nov 23, 2010 1:30

Fitzcarraldo, I must say that you have a proverbial patience... :)

I'm trying to improve a little bit the previous version ...
The only real novelty it's the reflection and think it is very (too) dependents on the type of material, so I will have to experiment a bit more.
I added a first and timid version of light reflection on the glass...
I lowered the overall contrast (by dynamics), removed the back footprint, altered the materials reflectiveness and in fact the tube details stands out more.
Moreover the font used for the tagline is called: "Air Conditioner"...ehh?
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Here are the files in JPEG format (but with low loss):
wallpaper 4:3 file: vintage02_prova007_rs_4-3.jpeg
wallpaper 16:9 file: vintage02_prova007_rs_16-9.jpeg
wallpaper 16:10 file: vintage02_prova007_rs_16-10.jpeg

I would avoid putting the RAW file version "vintage02_prova007_rs.xcf" on my webspace because it has a size of 32.5Mb. This is due to the fact that nearly all objects residing on its layer.
... but if you're really interested ... :wink:

Previously, I approximated the geometric perspective, using the isometric method by estimating distances and an angle of 20° (the tubes should be at the center), but I confess that I am not fully convinced yet!
As soon as I tried to remove the sharp edge in front; the 'error' feeling becomes stronger! :?
Perhaps brutally using a golden ratio (the tubes moves slightly forward) would work better.

When I have more time I'll try the other things you mentioned and maybe even trying to have a greater viewing distance...
As in a typical photo of a tube amp... so I'll also try something completely different.

I think I understand what you mean in general, I also like working on a desktop very clean and intelligible with reference to the elements that are present.
And often I find myself on the minimalistic limit, though on my desktops, there are at most 5 or 6 items.
Certainly one (of many) ways to achieve this is to use subjects with dim lighting and with homogeneous contrast.

The next will be cleaner: I promise (or not)... :lol:
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Re: Nixie tube artwork...

Postby Fitzcarraldo » Tue Nov 23, 2010 15:17

It looks much better than the previous attempt, and all the things you did contribute to that. The reflected glow on the base looks really good (and more authentic), and the removal of the large hen's foot and the placing of a small one below the text looks more tasteful; more subtle.

I hope anyone seeing this realises the amount of work you have put into creating it. The Nixie tubes are all different from each other, both externally and internally: the wires, the frame, the anode and cathodes etc. Superb.

Regarding the font... come to think of it, it does remind me of the text on the US-made air conditioning units at our house in the 1970s. But it is very much the style of text on old radios, too.
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Re: Nixie tube artwork...

Postby alonsoty » Tue Nov 23, 2010 16:02

Thanks,
but many details are still improvable and albeit a little less frequently, I will continue to make some changes (following your advices above). :wink:

Perhaps the first thing will be to change the FOV.
Indeed on my notebook (1280x800) is perhaps a little bulky...
are in fact at the limit with my usual setup of conky.



The nice fact is that today morning while I was changing my themes; there were two guys behind me curious about Sabayon and so I gave then my iso-dvd.

thanks to the nixie tubes :alien:

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Re: Nixie tube artwork...

Postby Fitzcarraldo » Tue Nov 23, 2010 16:08

Looks very good as a wallpaper: dark enough and empty space enough to show icons and text well, plus an interesting and unique subject for the image. I'm not on my SL machine ATM, but as soon as I am I'm going to make your latest image my wallpaper.
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Re: Nixie tube artwork...

Postby alonsoty » Wed Nov 24, 2010 16:04

Good news for all graphics geeks...

Starting with the last GIMP file created I have merged some layers and disposed those of test; getting a RAW image size of "only" 33MB uncompressed.
In particular, you can no longer manipulate the nixie tubes individually but all together and I do not think it is a serious lack. :mrgreen:
Then I compressed the file (squeezing to maximum) using the lzma format, in less than 8Mb size.
Here's the link: vintage02_prova007_rs.xcf.tar.lzma

Now if someone wants to try himself will have a good starting point.
How do you say? Open your source ...

Now I give myself a few days of relaxing holiday from nixie tubes!
so, then everyone who wants, can start thinking about the suggestions...

Thanks again to Fitzcarraldo that is a great artistic director.
(the name does not betray the expectations) :wink:
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Re: Nixie tube artwork...

Postby joost » Wed Nov 24, 2010 16:25

How do you say? Open your source ...


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creative_Commons_licenses

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Re: Nixie tube artwork...

Postby alonsoty » Wed Nov 24, 2010 18:01

mmh...
I admit that I never thought (probably I have a too technical education). :oops:

In any case, the starting idea was by Fitzcarraldo.
I do not care so much to take the credit...
I'd just like that who changes or improves anything, after will decide to redistribute freely (like I did).

...the artworks of Sabayon (themes, colors, logos etc.) are they already distributed with a "Creative Commons" license?
What do you recommend for this?

Surely you have an expertise, in this area, much greater than mine.
Thanks


--- Edited 24 Nov 2010 at 21:15 ---
I see there are different options and combinations.
For example, the option "Share-alike" would seem to align with my thinking.
In your opinion would be a good choice to adopt a [by-sa] Creative Commons license?


--- Edited 25 Nov 2010 at 21:38 ---
I would be happy to do in this manner (I hope there are no other related problems):

ImageSabayon Nixies (Vintage02 wallpaper) by Sabayon Community is licensed under a
Creative Commons [Attribuzione - Condividi allo stesso modo] 3.0 Unported License
Based on a work at forum.sabayon.org


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Re: Nixie tube artwork...

Postby alonsoty » Sun Nov 28, 2010 18:41

I'm a nuisance... true! :lol:
But there were still details that bothered me, in the image closely, so I did some further tiny changes.
In particular, the first tube had a different interior lighting, I have also tried to mitigate the loss (fade effect) on the glass of all tubes and some other slight things almost invisible (thanks to Roby) but in general, seem to looks better.

Here are all the files:
wallpaper 4:3 file: vintage02_prova012_rs_4-3.jpeg
wallpaper 16:9 file: vintage02_prova012_rs_16-9.jpeg
wallpaper 16:10 file: vintage02_prova012_rs_16-10.jpeg
compressed RAW Gimp file: vintage02_prova012_rs.xcf.tar.lzma

For Vintage02 version I think it really all and I'll stop here.
Do not hesitate if you have suggestions on other variants.
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